Why we need more than “learn at your own pace” online learning

Re:Why we need more than “learn at your own pace” online lea... by Eridrus on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @06:01PM (#18135209)

I don't think this is an accurate assessment of education in the ML space. There are tonnes of people who have self-taught themselves the material. The issue I see is that employers do not trust non-university credentials, and so there is a strong hiring bias towards PhD graduates, regardless of whether it is warranted.

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Re:Why we need more than “learn at your own pace” online lea... by dwrodri on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @06:50PM (#18135462)

I think a big part of this comes from the lack of emphasis on group projects and technical communication in MOOCs. How many MOOCs have you seen where you're actually encouraged to work in groups, and then eventually present your work?

Even though the concept of an MOOC has been around for quite some time now, it's only recently that their curricula at the course level is actually consistently on par with what would be seen in a good university environment (think like "Top 50" University).

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Re:Why we need more than “learn at your own pace” online lea... by Etherea on Friday October 05, 2018 @05:11AM (#18146745)

I had a whole post in startupschool.com about this. I was unable to find anybody agreeing with me. Glad you made me feel less alone in this world. And TBH from all the excitement of being in SuS, I think one might launch a startup with this idea

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Re:Why we need more than “learn at your own pace” online lea... by Eridrus on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @07:06PM (#18135543)

Most self-taught people I have met have come up with their own projects, or at least played with Kaggle, as people are usually advised to do. MOOCs are only a small part of the options people can and do exercise.

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Re:Why we need more than “learn at your own pace” online lea... by seventhtiger on Thursday October 04, 2018 @12:32AM (#18137219)

Self driven education has always existed. At least as long as you could check out books in the library. The Internet made it more convenient, but it didn't make it any easier. Most people thrive in a structured environment with superiors and peers. That's why universities are so much more successful than libraries.

There's also the problem of knowing what you don't know. If an expert in the field is educating you they will give you a full picture of the field and what's important in it. But if you're self taught you can miss entire areas and never realize their importance from reading academic sources.

I'm not against self teaching or MOOCs at all. I just think they need more structure and require more commitment to be as useful as university is to society. They're a bit too casual, requiring much more self drive which is harder than just setting deadlines and exams.

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