News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Ask HN: What is your best advice for a junior software developer?. Parent comment

Re:Ask HN: What is your best advice for a junior software de... by lmkg on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @02:05PM (#18132933)
Clojure's stack traces are an issue with Clojure specifically, and how it's hosted on top of the JVM. A lot of the stack trace you get is actually implementation details of the Java objects making up the Clojure runtime. In effect, the program that you get stack traces of is the Clojure interpreter rather than your Clojure program which is running inside that interpreter.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Ask HN: What is your best advice for a junior software de... by vram22 on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @04:32PM (#18134574)
Why do they do this, though? Shouldn't they have realized from the start that such messages are not helpful, and should have given messages related to your Clojure program? (Or is there some difficult technical issue related to achieving this?)

Asking because reading about this issue in the past is one thing that has kept me from trying out Clojure.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Ask HN: What is your best advice for a junior software de... by konamicode on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @04:21PM (#18134468)
I've heard similar things about Scala, though I haven't had a chance to confirm this for myself yet. Not 100% sure if this supports your hypothesis or not given that Scala is multiparadigm?
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Ask HN: What is your best advice for a junior software de... by projectileboy on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @03:54PM (#18134192)
Fortunately, I think 1.10 is going a long way towards fixing this.
[ Parent | on HN ]