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Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by Balero on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @10:07AM (#18121781)
The very definition of second and third world were created and based off of the cold war.

1st world = USA/Western Europe + allies 2nd world = USSR/China + allies 3rd world = Everyone else.

By definition Russia started as a 2nd world country.

Now your point about Russia not being on the level of western Europe pre-1917, is a very good point. They were year behind in industrialising (for a variety of reasons, including not being capitalist and competitive).

However other countries have tried, such as Eastern Germany. Eastern Germany and Western Germany, whilst not identical (with Western being a bit richer) were not "third world hell holes" except straight after WW2. They then diverged as the capitalist west grew and improved, and the east stagnated under a terrible regime.

Other examples could include North and South Korea, Mao-China, and Deng xiaoping- China.

Socialism does not work. It does not work in the real world.

Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by Kim_Bruning on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @11:48AM (#18122746)
It's actually a bit funny...

* East Germany was practicing State Capitalism with Communism as the ultimate goal.

* West Germany was practicing Social Democracy, aiming at capitalist growth.

Which of the two was actually (more) socialist (in the sense of reaching socialist aims) ? O:-)