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Re:“I'm surrounded by people - but I feel so lonely” by gaspoweredcat on Monday October 01, 2018 @04:24AM (#18110863)
welcome to the modern world! the media and other influences have done a great job in driving a wedge between all different types of people to the point that were all barely able to communicate let alone socialise or possibly make friends
Re:“I'm surrounded by people - but I feel so lonely” by yaps8 on Monday October 01, 2018 @05:06AM (#18111025)
It is really not the tone of the article:

> There is a common stereotype that loneliness mainly strikes older, isolated people - and of course it can, and does. But the BBC survey found even higher levels of loneliness among younger people, and this pattern was the same in every country.

> It's tempting to conclude that something about modern life is putting young people at a higher risk of loneliness, but when we asked older people in our survey about the loneliest times in their lives, they also said it was when they were young.

> There are several reasons why younger people might feel lonelier. The years between 16 and 24 are often a time of transition where people move home, build their identities and try to find new friends.

> Meanwhile, they've not had the chance to experience loneliness as something temporary, useful even, prompting us to find new friends or rekindle old friendships - 41% of people believe that loneliness can sometimes be a positive experience.

Re:“I'm surrounded by people - but I feel so lonely” by cyborgx7 on Monday October 01, 2018 @05:21AM (#18111094)
Friends aren't profitable. You are much easier to be exploited if you are by yourself.
Re:“I'm surrounded by people - but I feel so lonely” by icebraining on Monday October 01, 2018 @05:26AM (#18111123)
Anecdotally, the people I know who socialize (IRL) the most also spend the most, often into debt. Friends pull you into expensive activities, provoke a need of one-upmanship, etc. Whereas the people who give up "the race" are often loners.

(This is not an argument against having friends, mind you!)

Of course, it could be argued that social networks are a way to re-engineer "friendships" so that they provoke the spending part (looking good on the feed, winning in stupid games, etc) without giving the satisfaction that one might get from just spending time with them.

Re:“I'm surrounded by people - but I feel so lonely” by cyborgx7 on Monday October 01, 2018 @06:00AM (#18111268)
>Of course, it could be argued that social networks are a way to re-engineer "friendships" so that they provoke the spending part (looking good on the feed, winning in stupid games, etc) without giving the satisfaction that one might get from just spending time with them.

I'm actually seing similar strategies employed all over the place. Ever brand wants to build a "community" around them. But they are not doing anything to foster the connection between members. Because if the members formed connections they could act in solidarity with eachother and actually gain some amount of power through collective action.

No, the only part of "community" they foster is the loyalty aspect. Loyalty to the brand. Because that is the part that is profitable.

Re:“I'm surrounded by people - but I feel so lonely” by gaspoweredcat on Monday October 01, 2018 @01:46PM (#18114986)
very true, not that friends dont exploit us too, its just done in more subtle ways so you often dont notice it.

but i have a very different way of looking at the world than most

Re:“I'm surrounded by people - but I feel so lonely” by tasticanal on Monday October 01, 2018 @04:36AM (#18110912)
This. We think we socialise through apps, but in reality we are really alone.
Re:“I'm surrounded by people - but I feel so lonely” by finaliteration on Monday October 01, 2018 @09:47AM (#18112441)
I definitely think that it makes being alone more painful. I stopped using Facebook, Twitter, and Snapchat almost a year ago, and I just shut down Instagram about two months ago. It made me realize how much more I focused on how lonely I felt because I saw all of these interactions but it never felt like I was connected or intimate with anyone. I’m still lonely and spend a lot of time alone, but it doesn’t feel like it’s taunting me and driving me towards suicide out of despair.