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Re:Questions by carapace on Sunday September 30, 2018 @01:59PM (#18107353)
FWIW, I would [make the national speed limit 25] if I could. (With some hopefully obvious qualifications.)

The current traffic system as an insane "death and mayhem lottery" that we force ourselves to play, with out respect of youth, age or anything.

The current interest and action towards bike-friendly cities is a symptom, I think, of a healing of societies' psyches. We have been pretty brutal to each other since the Younger Dryas, and it's only recently that we've started to calm down and think about what we really want our civilization to be like.

Re:Questions by ttty on Sunday September 30, 2018 @03:19PM (#18107832)
Ok, so from 50 to 25 will reduce some deaths. That's right. But now we can reduce to 20, will reduce even more deaths. Then 15, 10... Where do we stop?
Re:Questions by carapace on Sunday September 30, 2018 @04:41PM (#18108288)
Fair point, and I have two answers for you.

The real thing I would advocate (if this weren't a beautiful Sunday afternoon, calling me from my keyboard) is a design for traffic that began from the premise of three (or four) interconnected but separate networks, one each for pedestrians, bikes, and rail, and maybe one network of specialized freeways for trucks and buses. Personal cars would be a luxury (unless you live in the country) that few would need (rather than a cornerstone of our economy) with rentals taking up the slack for vacations and such.

But if you're interested in this sort of thing, don't bother with my blathering, go read Christopher Alexander.

My other answer is really just an invitation to a kind of thought experiment: what if we really did restrict ourselves to just walking, biking, and trains? How would civilization look in that alternate reality?

Re:Questions by taneq on Monday October 01, 2018 @03:29AM (#18110644)
And what is the real human cost when we factor in the number of human lives wasted sitting in traffic at stupidly low speeds.

If decreasing your speed from 100km/h to 50km/h gives you a 1% lower chance of dying in a road traffic accident, but you spend an additional 2% of your life stuck in traffic, is that a win?