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Re:Upgrading GitHub from Rails 3.2 to 5.2 by BjoernKW on Friday September 28, 2018 @05:01PM (#18097033)
Although arguably not as productive Java fares pretty well in that regard, particularly when it comes to maintainability.

Still, Rails is terrific. If it wasn’t for Rails Java today wouldn’t be as productive either.

Re:Upgrading GitHub from Rails 3.2 to 5.2 by alexhutcheson on Friday September 28, 2018 @05:14PM (#18097120)
Yeah Java isn't nearly as bad as it used to be, and it's pretty seamless to write your business logic in Kotlin if Java's verbosity annoys you.
Re:Upgrading GitHub from Rails 3.2 to 5.2 by AlphaSite on Friday September 28, 2018 @08:15PM (#18097992)
Honestly Java is getting better at a good pace now. It’s nowhere near as bad as the java 6 days.