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Re:Startup Nation? Entrepreneurs Still Toil in Macron's France by hrktb on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @06:01PM (#18070894)
I have mixed feelings about the grandes ecoles. Brilliant people get there and you don’t get in and out without serious grit, a decent mind and a taste for effort.

But I tink that’s really what it is. The best engineers I have seen didn’t care for ‘burning’ years of their life in half military schools or old institutions, they went directly to CS courses to get a diploma faster and go abroad or start their own project.

Put another way, people who don’t care about prestige and having a super broad education don’t go there, and in our field I tink a ton of super talented people fit that description.

Re:Startup Nation? Entrepreneurs Still Toil in Macron's France by presscast on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @05:16AM (#18074182)
>I have mixed feelings about the grandes ecoles.

To be fair, so do I, and I think you make a good point. The profile you can expect from a GE is:

- Extremely well-learned. They know a lot of stuff.

- Solutions implemented by GE engineeres will be principled, rather than ad-hoc.

- Not self-starters. They very much have an employee mindset.

And to be faire, there are plenty of outstanding employees (not to mention freelancers or entrepreneurs) who haven't gone through a Grande École.

Let me put it another way: you may not need a GE-graduate to build the next iPod, but you certainly need them for the next EuroTunnel.

Re:Startup Nation? Entrepreneurs Still Toil in Macron's France by thatfrenchguy on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @09:24PM (#18071935)
"Put another way, people who don’t care about prestige and having a super broad education don’t go there, and in our field I tink a ton of super talented people fit that description."

But just like Americans go to ranked universities, as a student you learn how to play the game and go to the best (fit) one you can enter.