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Re:If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @08:53AM (#18065892)
Dairy and small amounts of egg (usually added for it's chemical/material properties) in baked goods don't count as meat for discussions about food sustainability because they don't require raising animals for slaughter. A dairy cow can produce many gallons of milk and a chicken can lay many eggs over its lifetime. They're a drop in the bucket compared to the environmental impact of meat raised for direct consumption.

That's like complaining about oil products used to patch roads in a discussion about the environmental impact of oil.

Re:If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer by subculture on Tuesday September 25, 2018 @12:49PM (#18068030)
Dairy production absolutely requires raising animals for slaughter. There is no beef industry without the dairy industry. Like mammals, cows produce milk as food source for their offspring - the dairy industry ensures that cows are always producing offspring. Those offspring don't get milk - it's sold to us. Those male offspring become veal and are slaughtered early. Those female offspring become more dairy cows. Those dairy cows that can no longer produce milk are slaughtered for meat and myriad other uses.

That's a huge reason why veganism is growing far faster than vegetarianism. People are realizing the systemic connection between the industries and understanding that all animal products must be eschewed.