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Re:A Programming Language Underdog by debiandev on Monday September 24, 2018 @06:15AM (#18056419)
> as someone doing precisely this kind of engineering for almost three decades, I can assure you that this is not the case

Same here.

> Unless one is an operating system vendor (like Joyent, redhat, SuSE, Debian, Canonical, CentOS, ...) third party and unbundled applications must never be installed into /usr

That's what I wrote: "native package managers should install binaries in /usr/[s]bin and libraries under /usr"

"native" as in: provided by the distribution. Not third party.

https://github.com/nim-lang/nimble/issues/80 is about using /opt/nimble and you wrote "If you implement that, you instantaneously take away the ability to deploy applications through OS's automated deployment", hence the confusion.

Re:A Programming Language Underdog by Annatar on Monday September 24, 2018 @07:36AM (#18056792)
""native" as in: provided by the distribution. Not third party."

It was a misunderstanding then: I thought native meant the packaging format native to the OS, not packages which come with the OS (bundled software).

Issue 80 from what I understood is about nimble, a packaging format proprietary to one programming language, providing system wide installation capability; this would indeed preclude using native provisioning technologies because those use the OS's native packaging format and hence know nothing of "nimble".