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Re:Let Teenagers Sleep In by sizzle on Sunday September 23, 2018 @03:47PM (#18052782)
My experience with amp induced comedown can only be described as a sharp onset of malaise that rapidly increases in intensity to the point you feel subdued and hostage to your impulses where normal tasks like flossing your teeth are met with dread and take a ridiculous amount of willpower that is simply overridden by dopamine producing activities such as using a smartphone. This really messed with my sleep schedule cause I could not make it to bed when my brain was held hostage by depleted dopamine neurotransmitters.

The obvious solution is to prep for bed early on meds but why waste that precious, fleeting neurotypical window of mental clarity flossing my teeth when I need it to perform cognitively during the day. This is on 50mg/day

I wish my brain was neurotypical. I'm a slave to these pills now cause stopping now literally leaves you in bed for days and you never really recover and bounce back after 5+ years of dopamine down-regulation in your brain.

Re:Let Teenagers Sleep In by derefr on Sunday September 23, 2018 @03:50PM (#18052790)
What drug? The come-down from Vyvanse is very gentle.

(Really, it lasts long enough for a person of average metabolism that what you experience in the evening isn't even the withdrawal, but just the tail-end of the dose, where there's slightly less of it. To experience the withdrawal, you have to stay up ~18 hours after taking it. Even then, from the few times I've had to stay awake for other reasons, it's still what I'd describe as "gentle"; but it does do interesting things to your dreams when it hits while you're sleeping, until your brain gets used to it. Personally, my dopamine-crashes-during-sleep gave me dreams with the exact visual character of Zdzisław Beksiński paintings. Oddly, no emotional affect associated—such visuals are not scary or unsettling, as they "should" be—they're just... what your brain is doing, trying to suddenly elevate noisy sensory data to salience and ignore the model saying "you're sleeping, that stuff is meaningless." Like an extremely low-light picture causing noise on a camera sensor, crossed with DeepDream processing.)

Re:Let Teenagers Sleep In by sizzle on Sunday September 23, 2018 @04:21PM (#18052963)
Amphetamine salts instant release (10mg x 2) and extended release beads (30mg x 1) across the whole day. Make I'll try dexadrine and then vynase, but I recall vynase is converted to a lower level of amphetamine in the body than straight amphetamine?
Re:Let Teenagers Sleep In by pseudalopex on Sunday September 23, 2018 @05:04PM (#18053200)
Vyvanse contains less amphetamine milligram for milligram, but that's offset by better absorption and higher doses. It's also all the same form, which works better for some people.

What you describe can be mostly from physical stress of being stimulated all day. Dexedrine, Vyvanse, or methylphenidate might give you a better ratio of cognitive to physical effects. Supplementing with a non-stimulant medication might help with your symptoms in the evening and also let you take a lower dose of amphetamine during the day. There's evidence that some supplements, like magnesium, can reduce adverse effects from stimulants. You probably already know this, but it's important to eat enough throughout the day and often hard to do that.

Re:Let Teenagers Sleep In by sizzle on Monday September 24, 2018 @08:59PM (#18062766)
Thanks for the information, much appreciated! I'm afraid to speak with a psych cause they will take me off these meds that I rely on to perform neurotypically. Ritalin made me bipolar with severe mood swings. Wellbutrin paradoxically made me feel depressed. Only amps have allowed my brain fog to subside and slow down my racing thoughts.

Magnesium is great, I take it throughout the day. L-theanine helps with the come down as well.