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Re:Brain Drain Within the EU? by gerdesj on Saturday September 22, 2018 @07:49PM (#18048620)
I'm living in Italy at the moment, and I can watch the brain drain happening in real time. Every single university student I know here is looking to go to the UK or Germany when they graduate, almost without exception.

If you allow your gaze to de-focus slightly, you could think of Italy as contributing towards the EU as a whole. If it helps, just down the road from me is a helicopter manufacturer that used to be known as Westland Aircraft (there are railings with WA in them still). It is now known as Leonardo (as in da Vinci). You might also note that before I get to Leonardo I pass a Lidl store and a Macdonalds. On the northern side of town there is an Asda which is effectively Walmart.

I remember, many moons ago (1970s), the UK whining about "suffering" a brain drain to the US. Maybe there was a net migration in that direction or not - who knows? In the UK we have had scandals in the past about the Home Office not knowing how many immigrants have entered the country, so I doubt that anyone can claim to know how many have left either. I also suspect that Italy has a similar lack of decent official data capture.

Anyway, it sounds like you are still a nipper (a young person) and have opportunities. Take advantage of them and don't get too hung up on what you might perceive as a problem that some people might love to have to deal with but can't because they are in real poverty and/or oppression.

Think, say, Syria (for example)

Re:Brain Drain Within the EU? by plandis on Saturday September 22, 2018 @10:38PM (#18049085)
I downvotes you because I think it’s incredibly fallacious to discredit the problems people have simply because you can find examples of worse off people in the world (in your example Syria).

Obviously people in a civil war torn country have an extremely poor quality of life that that doesn’t mean that everyone everywhere else does t have very real problems too. Basically, I think you’re presenting a false dichotomy since problems can be improved no matter where or to whom they happen.

Re:Brain Drain Within the EU? by safanycom on Saturday September 22, 2018 @08:57PM (#18048821)
When I was growing up the Westlands and NAG apprenticeships and full-time jobs went to relatives of those who already worked there. Seems like the irregular book-keeping also persists

I only ever got temping jobs as a data entry clerk and I quit Yeovil to get a PhD and to work outside Europe

There are many truths

Re:Brain Drain Within the EU? by barry-cotter on Saturday September 22, 2018 @09:24PM (#18048909)
Maybe they don’t want the opportunity to leave their home, family, friends, language and culture. Maybe they’d prefer that their country actually worked.

The fact that the Home Office don’t keep track of emigration, immigration or net migration does not mean no one else does.

Re:Brain Drain Within the EU? by ciguy on Sunday September 23, 2018 @04:50AM (#18050129)
You're hilariously off the mark. I'm not from Italy, and I live here by choice because my money comes from businesses I built elsewhere. I didn't grow up here and have no ties to Italy at all except distant ancestry, so I'm just reporting what I see on the ground.

If you weren't so quick to dismiss me as a "nipper" perhaps we could have an intelligent conversation. But given the lack of intelligence in your reply I'm not going to try.