Re:3D engine entirely made of MS Excel formulae
by TeMPOraL on Saturday September 22, 2018 @04:26PM
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Excel-based workflows are definitely brittle, but people learn to be careful with it (you have to, if you want to keep your job).
One big problem it solves for regular people (i.e. not programmers) is this: "our workflow and/or reality of our business changes much faster than the IT department/outside contractors can keep up with".
(The other big, and related, problem is: "our IT department/outside contractors have no clue and don't really even care much about what we actually do or need".)
Re:3D engine entirely made of MS Excel formulae
by MrEldritch on Saturday September 22, 2018 @03:34PM
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It's also really quite good for automating numerical calculations; a sort of poor-man's-Matlab. Having every intermediate value in a multi-step computation both immediately visualized (and thus easily sanity-checked) and accessible as a variable, without having to keep track of names, is very powerful.
Re:3D engine entirely made of MS Excel formulae
by sjy on Sunday September 23, 2018 @12:47AM
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I’ve been solving this problem with PowerShell for the last year or so. It’s usually available on locked-down corporate Windows boxes, and you can use the entire .NET Framework, as well as third-party .NET libraries, without admin rights. I’m using it with System.Data.SQLite to build a WPF application at the moment, which will hopefully replace a whole bunch of messy and hard-to-maintain Excel sheets and Access databases.
Re:3D engine entirely made of MS Excel formulae
by eggy on Sunday September 23, 2018 @03:03AM
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I love PowerShell for this reason. I had a 100 CSV files, and I needed the first two rows removed to put them into a signal viewing app, and it took only a few lines of PowerShell to do this on my corporate machine. I would normally do this in another PL, but strangely PowerShell's solution further pushed me to look into it for other uses on that machine. I wish there were a good book for this, since I actually prefer that than just Googling quick solutions when trying to actually learn something.
Re:3D engine entirely made of MS Excel formulae
by sjy on Sunday September 23, 2018 @03:28AM
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Yep, I could have learned much faster with a good book. Most PS tutorials are targeted at sysadmins with minimal programming experience. I would have preferred something that assumed programming experience and focused on what makes PS different from other scripting languages.
Re:3D engine entirely made of MS Excel formulae
by rejschaap on Sunday September 23, 2018 @04:16AM
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I work in a Microsoft shop, but I always have a bash shell running. It prevents me from really diving into PowerShell. I will end up running a quick sed '2,3d' on the csv files and move on with my life.
Re:3D engine entirely made of MS Excel formulae
by eggy on Sunday September 23, 2018 @02:45PM
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I have PowerShell on my local company machine, and without Admin priveleges I can't even sideload bash through a Git install. We're not a software company, so requesting Git is also out of the standard operational procedures as a user. IT knows my coding background (since 1978), but they can't change policy.
ps. Excel does some things OK, like drawing pretty graphs on smallish datasets and visualize quick analysis with pivot tables. It just lacks a sensible scripting language and is generally very brittle once the data is getting nontrivial and more than one person is involved.