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Re:How the octopus got its smarts by bjelkeman-again on Thursday September 20, 2018 @12:00PM (#18033438)
I have been thinking for a while that if you want to practice communicating with aliens, try octopi. If you can actually have a reasonable conversation with some of them, like you can with a house trained dog, then you are making some kind of progress.
Re:How the octopus got its smarts by toasterlovin on Thursday September 20, 2018 @04:23PM (#18035163)
I don't think dogs are a great example of an intelligent species just because we can communicate with them reasonably well. They have evolved to be able to participate in human society. With the exception of some breeds of herding dogs, they're probably stupider than (to pick one example) raccoons. But dogs possess a key trait that raccoons lack: they can understand human emotion reasonably well.
Re:How the octopus got its smarts by zepearl on Thursday September 20, 2018 @06:22PM (#18035907)
My parent's dog makes them indirectly do what she wants => direct communication is potentially overvalued.
Re:How the octopus got its smarts by oneeyedpigeon on Thursday September 20, 2018 @01:00PM (#18033897)
This is almost literally the plot of Arrival :-)
Re:How the octopus got its smarts by shostack on Thursday September 20, 2018 @04:12PM (#18035110)
Which is particularly relevant given their similarities to an octopus, albeit a 4th dimensional version of one.
Re:How the octopus got its smarts by ufmace on Thursday September 20, 2018 @03:53PM (#18035031)
That makes me wonder - do they have what we would consider reasonable conversations with each other?
Re:How the octopus got its smarts by kevinmchugh on Thursday September 20, 2018 @05:41PM (#18035697)
Chimp communication is complicated enough that it can probably be called conservation, but I think they're one of the only species for which that is true.

I think most animals lack a wide enough range of responses to have a conversation.

Re:How the octopus got its smarts by jacobolus on Thursday September 20, 2018 @08:48PM (#18036450)
In most cases humans have not yet figured out anywhere near the full range of particular animals’ communication, so this is hard to judge.

For example, prarie dogs https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/magazine/can-prairie-dogs...

Re:How the octopus got its smarts by mrfusion on Thursday September 20, 2018 @01:33PM (#18034148)
I’d be happy with dolphins or whales.