Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan
by tptacek on Monday October 18, 2010 @09:12AM
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The pat down does not add 5 to 20 minutes. It's exactly the same secondary screening they give you if you set off the metal detector, performed by exactly the same person; if it took 20 minutes, the whole line would bottleneck.
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Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan
by edw519 on Monday October 18, 2010 @09:32AM
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My pat down did take 20 minutes. It was done by another person while the original person kept their original job. There was a backlog of people who refused to go through the "naked machine". And, yes, the whole line did bottleneck.
Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan
by tptacek on Monday October 18, 2010 @09:33AM
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That's never happened to me. Sorry it happened to you. I invariably refuse the strip search.
Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan
by icefox on Monday October 18, 2010 @10:05AM
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My pat down and search of everything on me took a good 15 minutes. When standing in line they asked each one of us if we wanted the xrays or patdown (they installed it just days before) and I was horrified when the person in front of me said "Oh I don't care" and the person in front of them simply said "that line looks faster". I couldn't believe they were so willing to take whatever security measure was added. I can only imagine what they are going to do next.
Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan
by philwelch on Monday October 18, 2010 @03:19PM
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On a moral level, I think it's excessive and abusive to use the backscatter machines and people should have the right to fly on airplanes without going through that process. On a personal level, I don't really care who sees me naked, much less faux-naked. And on a different personal level, getting into a confrontation with apathetic bureaucrats about my civil rights is never going to have any actual impact on my or anyone else's civil rights.
Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan
by tptacek on Monday October 18, 2010 @03:29PM
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Normally, I'd agree with this. Here, I strongly disagree. Strip search opt-outs cost time and money. The fact that most people aren't opting out is what allows the TSA the fig leaf of "it's optional", a fig leaf that will eventually drop once people acclimatize themselves to the idea of minimum-wage-earning TSA agents handling nude pictures of them.
The time to force the issue over this (by making "optional" strip searches prohibitively expensive) is now.
Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan
by philwelch on Monday October 18, 2010 @03:48PM
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Hey, if you want to DDoS the TSA sometime, I'm in. Get a bunch of people together on the same day and clog up a major airport (or, more ambitiously, all the major airports) by going through the opt-out line sounds effective. When it's just me and I don't personally care, it's a lot less convincing.