Re:A Plea to Unfuck Our Codes of Conduct
by untog on Thursday September 20, 2018 @08:53AM
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Honestly no, they probably didn't. I know I never did. It was only once I got to know a couple of women engineers well that I got to know the things they had to put up with. So I can see why you might oppose codes of conduct if you've never been exposed to the reasons why they were implemented in the first place. Personally I'm glad they're there.
Re:A Plea to Unfuck Our Codes of Conduct
by Xichom2k on Thursday September 20, 2018 @09:01AM
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To put it bluntly I only see radical shouting on twitter from both sides (look at the latest tweets from the CoC author and the reactionary responses). I have not really experienced it in real life.
So the debate itself seems to be like an alien war fought above my head with the occasional fallout dropping on projects I care about. I would very much prefer both sides to do more coding and less clawing at each other.
Re:A Plea to Unfuck Our Codes of Conduct
by Ensorceled on Thursday September 20, 2018 @09:10AM
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In my first management position in the 90’s I got to see:
Blatant discrimination against one of my reports who was openly gay and dealing with schizophrenia
A female colleague sexually propositioned by her boss
A VP who was openly homophobic and misogynistic.
If you are dealing with this and trying to get it to stop and the other side is asking you to do “less clawing” ...
Did they just not see the vicious bullying disguised as debate, the misogyny, homophobia, ageism and racism that I’ve been seeing in my industry for 30 years? Deliberately not see it? Not care?
Because this is often not fun for members of the community that are Female, PoC, LGBQT, or just targetable.