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Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan by bambax on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:14AM (#1803121)
Calloway was not flying the plane!

From the Wikipedia article you linked to (twice) but apparently did not care to read:

"The scheduled three-man flight crew consisted of 49-year-old Captain David Sanders, 42-year-old First Officer James Tucker, and 39-year-old Flight Engineer Andrew Peterson."

"About twenty minutes after takeoff, as the flight crew carried on a casual conversation, Calloway entered the flight deck and commenced his attack."

This incident is therefore entirely irrelevant to the conversation.

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It's interesting, though, to find (articulate) American people who actually approve of the TSA methods, because I thought it was the TSA vs. the rest of the public (cf. "Ask the Pilot" Salon column for instance).

It's interesting, but disheartening, because it means the TSA and its gropers and thugs are really here to stay.

Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan by alan on Monday October 18, 2010 @01:02PM (#1804234)
"Calloway was not flying the plane!"

Yes, that's the meaning of the word deadheading. Before you complain someone didn't read an article, you might want to make sure that you understand what they did say.

Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan by bambax on Monday October 18, 2010 @01:50PM (#1804426)
You're right! I didn't know this word and assumed, wrongly, that it meant something like "deadbeat". I should have checked first; got caught up in the heat of the discussion.

However, that makes the reference to this incident even more incomprehensible. Who said anything about off-duty pilots?

Being a qualified pilot (or dressed as one) is not the point; the point, as has been stated many times now in this discussion, is that:

1. whoever is flying the plane today does not need to go through security, because they'll end up in the cockpit anyway

2. whatever piece of ID is enough to get someone at the commands of a commercial airliner today should also be enough to get past ordinary security procedures designed for passengers

Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan by alan on Tuesday October 19, 2010 @09:56AM (#1807117)
That's the thing. Deadheading pilots are not off duty. A duty segment for a pilot can include, flying (as pilot) from LA to Dallas, deadheading to Chicago, flying to NY, then deadheading to Miami and finally flying back to LA. Not a very efficient use of the pilot's time, but still possible and they're paid by the airline for the whole thing and are on duty.
Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan by borism on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:16AM (#1803128)
He used his privileges as a pilot to bring the concealed weapons on board. How the fuck is that not relevant to the discussion?
Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan by jgrahamc on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:24AM (#1803151)
"but apparently did not care to read"

That's where I stopped reading your comment.

Re:Pilot Stands Up To TSA And Refuses Full Body Scan by bambax on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:48AM (#1803226)
No problem. The meat of my comment is in the first sentence: "Calloway was not flying the plane".