Re:Gravitational waves provide dose of reality about extra d...
by Jernik on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @04:11PM
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The speed of light in a vacuum is c, which is the speed of information, or the speed of causality
Re:Gravitational waves provide dose of reality about extra d...
by Sharlin on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @06:24PM
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I used the term "speed of causality" on purpose; that's what c is really about. The fact that the speed of light in vacuum happens to be c is just a side effect of photons being massless.
Re:Gravitational waves provide dose of reality about extra d...
by BurnGpuBurn on Thursday September 20, 2018 @04:37AM
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Thank you again for your of answering my questions. So.. well.. What is this speed of causality then? Can we put a number on it?
Besides this all, I still can't get anyone to give me a clear cut and dried answer on my original question. If gravity is instant in the Newtonian model, and that gives us stable orbits and all that, how does that translate to the Einsteinian model, where there's an upper speed limit of c? So, why would that even work, if the gravity of the sun takes 1au/c to get here and be felt by the earth? Or, is gravity somehow "above" this speed limit?
I really hope you meant speed of light there.
Regardless, this thing is still a mystery to me. Why, if gravity propagates at c (or, better perhaps: Changes in the space-time curvature, which is caused by mass-energy, propagate at c), why doesn't the earth spiral into the sun or away from it? If the earth is attracted to the point where the sun was eight minutes ago and not to where it is right now, it's orbit should not be stable. It's a very big difference compared to the "gravity is instant" way of Newton.