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Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by ALittleLight on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @07:40PM (#18020329)
It's interesting to think about. If I'm looking for someone to ride on a garbage truck, there's probably a 95% chance the future employee will be male, but acting on this expectation, by advertising to men instead of women - getting more employees per dollar spent, is sexist. Likewise, if I needed to hire an au pair I'd have to advertise to men and women equally?
Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by pteredactyl on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @07:56PM (#18020438)
I don't think it's sexist to target men for a job posting.

You know the job, you know what it entails and you know what works behaviorally and physically. There are differences between genders. That's okay.

I do think it's sexist to not hire a qualified women for the job because she's a women ( esp. in the garbage collector scenario). Like you hate women or something and you don't hire them ( funny story I heard a women on the sidewalk casually say she hated men. Never heard a man say that... ) The same for the flipside.

I do think it's a sexist double standard to say it's not okay to target men for a job and not mention anything about the flipside: it's okay to only target women.

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by JamisonM on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @08:25PM (#18020612)
The law says that it is "sexist" (i.e. discrimination) to target advertising in a way that denies qualified women the opportunity to apply for a particular job.

In the end the net result of targeting only men is the same as refusing to hire women, it denies otherwise qualified women opportunities that they are deserving of.

That this has a cost is understood by those who wrote the law, they decided those costs are worth it.

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by pteredactyl on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:03PM (#18021343)
Which law specifically states what you say?

It's one thing to target a gender in your advertisement. It's another to deny someone a job based on their gender.

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by bduerst on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @12:46AM (#18021731)
>Which law specifically states what you say?

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by pteredactyl on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @01:15PM (#18025798)
I read it. Couldn't find mention of advertisement or solicitation for jobs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by bduerst on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @03:09PM (#18026859)
That's a summary wiki article, more detail here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disparate_impact

also:

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/09/18/technology/ap-us...

>Targeting job ads by gender is illegal under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by pteredactyl on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @06:20PM (#18028131)
I'll take a look. Thanks
Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by ggggtez on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @12:04AM (#18021588)
No women ever saw the ad, so how could they apply? The courts have ruled it's the same as denying qualified people the job. The opportunity was unfairly hidden from them.

Imagine the job posting was in the men's toilet. The company would have a hard time arguing women had fair notice.

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @06:02AM (#18023097)
"There are differences between genders."

For sure. But you're not hiring a sex, you're hiring a person and individuals can match requirements for almost all types of position regardless of sex.

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by thecopy on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @08:26AM (#18023658)
So if i have a job that requires a man, why should i be coerced into paying for showing the ads for women?
Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @04:31PM (#18027465)
>for almost all types of position

You shouldn't IMO.

However, you should also understand that people do get jobs through other people seeing adverts - so worth bearing in mind.

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by weberc2 on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @09:56AM (#18024176)
Yes, but advertising can only reasonably target demographics, not individuals.
Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by sidstling on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @03:17AM (#18022386)
I think it’s sexists, but I also think that targeted advertising should be allowed as long as Uber hires women drivers who want to drive for Uber.

I think there will certainly be some issues if it becomes a trend though. I mean, most programmers are men, most doctors are women and if you target your adds based on that, you’ll only further increase the current norms.

Frankly targeting sex makes little sense for most jobs, doesn’t it? It’s be more reasonable to target interests, qualifications, education and current job status. I mean, Facebook knows what job and car you have, it might even know how much you drive, wouldn’t it make sense for Uber to target that instead of sex? But maybe they combine it all.

Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by occamrazor on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @09:40AM (#18024087)
In relation to your last question: in many countries (not sure about the US) jobs like au pair, house maid, babysitter, caretaker, are explicitly exempted from nondiscrimination rules.
Re:Facebook Is Letting Job Advertisers Target Only Men by arifmeticus on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @12:58PM (#18025652)
Why are they exempted?