Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by Drdrdrq on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:29PM
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I don't think you can guess in advance which marketing channel is going to work for you, you need to experiment and see what brings results. There's a book Traction that goes deeper into this, if you haven't given up yet. Good luck, both in business and marriage! :)
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by jith on Monday September 24, 2018 @07:37PM
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I see a few startup related books titled "Traction" on Amazon. Can you link / clarify which author? Thanks!
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by Drdrdrq on Wednesday September 26, 2018 @04:24PM
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Sure - Traction, a startup guide, by Weinberg. Excellent book.
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by aarongray on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:49PM
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Hey that looks like a good book, thanks for the recommendation and well wishes! :)
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by tim333 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:42PM
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Sounds interesting enough that you might get users by blogging about it / pr etc rather than paid advertising?
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by aarongray on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:22PM
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Yeah, maybe so, I just haven't had the time to invest in that. My wife took a high stress / high pay job to support us temporarily while I built the app, and she was nearing burnout and it just was taking me too long to scale my customer base after the paid ads failure, so I had to put it down and go back to a 9-5 to protect our marriage. ;-)
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by murukesh_s on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:30PM
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ha ha, looks like the single biggest reason for failure (or success) of startups are marriage :-)..
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by aarongray on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:51PM
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haha yeah you might be right. Startups typically put a huge strain on the founders and their families. I wouldn't advise anyone attempt a startup unless they are in good condition mentally, physically, and relationally.
In my case, I wouldn't have been able to quit my job and attempt this startup in the first place if it wasn't for my wife taking that hard job for a couple years - so I felt like it would have been a bad idea to respond to her good deed by taking advantage of her and burning her out so I could have my dream.
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by KennyCason on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @05:17AM
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My anecdotal evidence says, yes, it can be very stressful on the marriage. :)
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by retreatguru on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @02:46AM
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Great product idea. Sounds like something I would use. Have you heard of the lean startup?
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by aarongray on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @10:43AM
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Thanks. Yeah that's a great book, appreciate the recommendation.
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by robbick on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:14AM
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Does this product still exist?
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by aarongray on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:19PM
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Yeah, it still exists, I just paused development on it.
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by gitgud on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @08:02PM
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Pretty cool idea, I can see the incentive for kids and parents using this. It's not a failure, hope it works out for you!
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by aarongray on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @10:42AM
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Thanks - at the very least, our family can use it for our kids and scratch our own itch! ;-)
Re:Ask HN: Why did your startup fail and what did you learn?
by Embylodium on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:20AM
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That sounds like a fairly decent app! I would probably try it out.
The problem came with the marketing. When I did my due diligence before building the app, it seemed cost per click for ads was around 20 cents per click. 20 cents * 2% conversion rate = $10 cost to acquire customer. My lowball avg. lifetime value of a customer was $18 if customers stayed for 3 months on average. $10 / $18 seemed like a decent ratio, and if I could get the conversion rate up or the churn rate down, it could be a good ratio.
So I set out to build the app, which took about a year and half. But, when I finished the app and went to launch my marketing campaign, I was shocked when I saw the cost per click had skyrocketed to $2 per click, meaning my cost to acquire a customer was $100 with an average lifetime value of $18. My backup marketing plans were content marketing based, with a networking campaign with Mommy bloggers, but this takes a lot more time to scale your customer base than blasting out an ad campaign. This caused me run out of runway with my cash timeline, and so the startup failed.
I learned that its important to not get too heads-down coding your product - its important to review your growth strategy every few months while you build your product, because things can come up that can dramatically affect the speed at which you can grow, and that can jeopardize the whole operation. In my case, if I had noticed the ad costs climbing, I could have started networking with more people earlier, doing more content marketing pre-launch, and slowly increasing the size of my waiting list, or evaluating alternative marketing plans before my runway got so small at the end.