ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts

Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by krn on Monday September 17, 2018 @06:25PM (#18010648)

ProtonMail is a joke. It doesn't report security vulnerabilities to the users, when researchers discover them[1]. It publicly boasts about hacking a phishing site, when claims the journalist's report is based on "unsubstantiated rumors"[2]. It outsources a free VPN service to a data mining company[3], when claims it used it only as "an office space provider"[4].

[1] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/07/protonmail_fail_jav...

[2] https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/qvvke7/email-prov...

[3] http://litigation.maxval-ip.com/Litigation/DetailView?CaseID...

[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17775554

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by 4d66ba06 on Monday September 17, 2018 @09:51PM (#18011739)

I hadn't seen that. I'll need to look into things more after reading this: http://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn-...

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by krn on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:49AM (#18013074)

It's true, that Tesonet operates both, NordVPN and ProtonVPN, but it's not true, that Tesonet has any ownership of ProtonMail, as far as I'm aware of. ProtonVPN seems to be a partnership between ProtonMail and Tesonet.

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by protonmail on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:18AM (#18013452)

No, that is not correct, and for some reason, you post this misinformation in every single topic about ProtonMail. It seems likely you are affiliated with the people who are putting out these false statements in the first place.

We have previously responded to these claims here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by firic on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @10:40AM (#18015717)

Hmm, looks like you locked that thread. That looks suspiciously like there was some information you didn't want to get out. After all, trolls spamming will just get downvoted.

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by krn on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:24AM (#18013474)

> We have previously responded to these claims here:

And I already responded to your denial here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17789334

You are a shady company at best.

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by protonmail on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @07:51AM (#18014381)

A lot of inaccuracies in that reply. PIA troll (maybe also you, the same person, given the similarities) also made a nearly identical reply in the Reddit thread we linked previously, which we also replied to: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by krn on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @10:04AM (#18015393)

I will just leave it here, so that we would be done with this "PIA trolls" conspiracy theory for once and for all:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17775554

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by martincmartin on Monday September 17, 2018 @09:35PM (#18011664)

What's a better alternative?

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by krn on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @03:04AM (#18013154)

Mailbox.org and Posteo.de are currently the best ranked privacy-focused email providers[1]. Both are based in Berlin, and are extremely low-profile. Mailbox.org supports custom domains, Posteo.de doesn't.

[1] https://dismail.de/serverlist.html

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by enz on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @08:49AM (#18014786)

I use Gandi's email service because they offer you a mailbox when you buy a domain from them (and you use your domain of course). It is based in France (9 eyes).

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Re:ProtonMail Hits 5M Accounts by russdpale on Monday September 17, 2018 @10:58PM (#18012125)

I personally prefer tutanota

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