Re:Rich Hickey on Datomic Ions [video]
by 3rdAccount on Monday September 17, 2018 @10:56PM
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I think they've said before that they don't want someone saying the performance sucks when it is really just a bad query or something else that isn't the databases fault...this is usually the reason why talking about performance is outlawed.
Re:Rich Hickey on Datomic Ions [video]
by dwohnitmok on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:21AM
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But an analogous situation holds for almost all performance benchmarks of any product right? That seems to be an argument against ever making any benchmarks public.
Re:Rich Hickey on Datomic Ions [video]
by 3rdAccount on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:36AM
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I don't agree with it.
Re:Rich Hickey on Datomic Ions [video]
by RaleyField on Monday September 17, 2018 @08:13PM
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> simply do not want to talk about this topic
I wonder if there are many respectable companies that don't allow you to post benchmarks. It's almost as if they don't have any confidence in their product that they have to resort to such extraordinary measures.
Re:Rich Hickey on Datomic Ions [video]
by striking on Monday September 17, 2018 @08:27PM
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Oracle, Microsoft. They're called "DeWitt clauses", after the researcher who first invoked Oracle's wrath after publishing benchmarks and finding them to be the slowest. Read on:
* more about DeWitt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_DeWitt#The_%22DeWitt_Cla...
* an overview of database licenses with such a clause today: https://stackoverflow.com/a/12116865/1376005
* an essay discussing the legality of such clauses, with links to further material on/about them: https://www.dwheeler.com/essays/dewitt-clause.html
https://www.datomic.com/on-prem-eula.html
"[The licensee will not] (j) publicly display or communicate the results of internal performance testing or other benchmarking or performance evaluation of the Software; "
I wish they wouldn't do this, it seems that they simply do not want to talk about this topic, even though the reason people usually choose Datomic is not performance but rather its abstractions -- so why the hostile attitude?