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Re:Java Is Still Free by digitaLandscape on Monday September 17, 2018 @06:47PM (#18010772)
Java is encumbered and rotten. Nobody should be using it by choice.
Re:Java Is Still Free by tabtab on Monday September 17, 2018 @06:51PM (#18010806)
Every language that catches on in the market builds up "cruft" over time. Popularity has a down-side as features are tacked on to keep up with the e-joneses.

But a bigger problem is that Oracle is hell-bent on finding ways to sue profits out of ANY Java user, per (ongoing) API fiasco. Who wants to risk being a target of lawsuit greed? True, Microsoft could start doing the same with Dot-Net languages and API's, but so far they are (mostly) behaved. I'll side with the sleeping sharks over the circling sharks.

Re:Java Is Still Free by haglin on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:37AM (#18013512)
Just use OpenJDK.
Re:Java Is Still Free by tabtab on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:31PM (#18017326)
Either it uses the same API interfaces as Oracle's version, in which case it's a lawsuit risk, OR it has different API interfaces, making actual code incompatible with that written for the Oracle version: a de-facto fork.
Re:Java Is Still Free by thewizardofaus on Monday September 17, 2018 @06:57PM (#18010845)
You could say the same thing about java script
Re:Java Is Still Free by hactually on Monday September 17, 2018 @06:49PM (#18010785)
For a bad language it sure is taking a long time to die
Re:Java Is Still Free by geezerjay on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @08:39AM (#18014718)
> For a bad language it sure is taking a long time to die

Greenfield projects are not abundant within any organization, thus developers invest their lives extending the infrastucture. Consequently, older technologies tend to stay, particularly when they are proven and actually perform well.

And adding to that, just because some tech is new it doesn't mean it's any good. History is packed with the dead husks of many latest and greatest technologies that died off.

Re:Java Is Still Free by sieabahlpark on Monday September 17, 2018 @08:28PM (#18011356)
I don't think the JVM will be going anyway anytime soon.
Re:Java Is Still Free by Retra on Monday September 17, 2018 @07:44PM (#18011112)
Languages don't really die. Especially not popular ones.