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Re:So Good They Can't Ignore You by pjc50 on Monday September 17, 2018 @08:39AM (#18005326)
The double standard definitely works against women; they have more flexibility but that just means more unspoken rules to break, and a big challenge to be taken seriously that usually results in dressing more seriously than their male colleagues. And most of the outfits don't have pockets.

I'm also thinking of Naomi Wu drawing a tremendous amount of flak for skimpy outfits on Youtube, despite her pointing out that it was extremely hot in that part of China and not much skimpier than regular streetwear.

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Re:So Good They Can't Ignore You by pawelmurias on Monday September 17, 2018 @10:33AM (#18006251)
Naomi Wu is dressing as sexually provocative as possible. Is a transparent LED bra somehow a lot more suitable for hot weather.
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Re:So Good They Can't Ignore You by theshrike79 on Friday September 21, 2018 @07:51AM (#18038989)
Her clothing isn't really that provocative in Chinese culture.
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Re:So Good They Can't Ignore You by tomc1985 on Monday September 17, 2018 @12:27PM (#18007361)
It's not like the only alternative to business dress is skimpy clothing. T-shirts and jeans, or overalls, or a long casual dress, for example.

I envy women because I feel like they have way more options for dress and style than we men do. My choices are: t-shirt and jeans, button-up and khakis, some variant of those two, or one of the many contemporary men's styles that seem closer to caricatures than real life

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Re:So Good They Can't Ignore You by pjc50 on Monday September 17, 2018 @12:49PM (#18007590)
I didn't mean to imply that skimpiness was the only option , although it is remarkably hard to find an outfit that someone won't sexualise.

I was thinking of this excellent thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/sehurlburt/status/965453047965958...

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Re:So Good They Can't Ignore You by r_smart on Monday September 17, 2018 @11:55AM (#18007084)
> that usually results in dressing more seriously than their male colleagues.

Are yoga pants really more serious than khakis and a polo?

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Re:So Good They Can't Ignore You by pjc50 on Monday September 17, 2018 @12:03PM (#18007154)
No, but where did you cherry-pick that example from?

(I would code yoga pants as casual because they're sportswear, unless worn under something else as opaque tights which are professional. Woman wearing shirt+chinos will incur a minor penalty for gender non conforming dress unless it's a uniform in which case you're working at Best Buy)

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Re:So Good They Can't Ignore You by r_smart on Monday September 17, 2018 @01:30PM (#18007967)
Cherry pick? No. Anecdote? Sure. In my experience women have dressed at or below the level of professionalism (for lack of a better word) than the men. Women have a lot more variance in what they can wear, and very few people will choose to dress higher than the cultural expectation of them. I see far more women wearing yoga pants in a professional environment then men in athletic shirts or even just T-shirts. It's similar for my GF who is a teacher. She's always rolling her eyes about how often teachers wear yoga pants to work.

>Woman wearing shirt+chinos will incur a minor penalty for gender non conforming dress

We just live in different worlds I guess. I've seen women dress like that all the time, and no one is looking askance at them, not even minorly.

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