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Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off by loup-vaillant on Monday September 17, 2018 @06:03AM (#18004519)
> He's more or less a sample size of one as far as I can see in terms of building out such successful software on such a large community and without being inside a megacorp.

Much of this can be explained because he was at the right place at the right time. Two very important reasons why Linux is so successful are GNU and the GPLv2. Any decent kernel could have taken off at that time. Linux was the first that actually worked.

Now the ability of Linus to retain leadership is remarkable. Just, let's not forget that he got a hell of a head start with the FSF's work. Both technical (GNU) and legal (GPL).

Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off by wsy on Monday September 17, 2018 @11:24AM (#18006795)
You always build on the shoulders of giants. However, it was Linux that took off, not alternatives (e.g., Minix).
Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off by loup-vaillant on Monday September 17, 2018 @03:45PM (#18009307)
Wasn't Minix a whole operating system?

Linux is not an OS. It's a kernel. The OS was GNU, and Linux was only the missing piece.

I maintain that any kernel that worked with GNU would have taken off.

Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off by wsy on Monday September 17, 2018 @05:09PM (#18010105)
While true, I think this would not have stopped Minix, because you could compile and run all GNU tools on it. I just read that Linus developed Linux on a machine running Minix.

However, what I got wrong: in the first years, Minix was not free. Users had to either buy the book, or pay a license fee of $69.

Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off by loup-vaillant on Monday September 17, 2018 @05:26PM (#18010233)
I believe the licence is what did it: Linux could spread because it was free, and it could not be stolen because it was copylefted.

If Minix (or at least the Minix kernel), used the GPLv2 from the start, I wouldn't bet on Linux.

Re:Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off by hyperpallium on Monday September 17, 2018 @10:17PM (#18011893)
The kernel was missing for quite a while, wasn't it? linus is the one who did it; and he enabled other people to contribute effectively.

Also: I was thinking he's remained the leader of this very successful project, for a long time - he deserves credit for that. But perhaps that's a part of software's durable unfair advantage, that e.g. made so much money for Oracle, Microsoft. Similarly, BDFL, as for perl, python, ruby etc tend to stay there. So, perhaps it's more just not stuffing it up, than special credit?

What do ypu think of how esr explained linus's success in the cathedral and the bazaar?