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Re:Ask HN: What is the dark side of working at a successful ... by gaius on Monday September 17, 2018 @03:31AM (#18003879)
At some point it is successful enough that it can survive having people whose only goal is to direct a large amount of money into their pockets.

Seen this a few times, “executives” joining late in the day (weeks before IPO) with 10-100x the stock(options) of early engineers.

Re:Ask HN: What is the dark side of working at a successful ... by candiodari on Monday September 17, 2018 @09:12AM (#18005574)
Seen this too. What I can't understand is what makes people hire these clowns ?

The first thing you learn about business is that you don't know how it works.

The second thing is that no matter how experienced the competition looks, they don't know either.

Hiring cannot solve a lack of business knowledge ... and yet everyone keeps thinking, again and again and again, that it does.

So what makes people hire these idiots ?

Re:Ask HN: What is the dark side of working at a successful ... by kwillets on Monday September 17, 2018 @03:38PM (#18009252)
It seems like a group thing where they buy credibility with industry insiders. IPO's are all about lending credibility (that's why investment banks take a huge chunk), and the do-nothing hires are apparently related to that.
Re:Ask HN: What is the dark side of working at a successful ... by laurentl on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:30PM (#18016671)
Yes, signaling plays a big part. At some point you’re basically buying a gold-plated LinkedIn profile for the VCs and the press releases and the keynotes in industry summits, and that feeds on itself - each new prestigious VP position is another layer of gilt on the CV.

In other words, they are hired to look good - any productive outcome is a mere coincidence.

Re:Ask HN: What is the dark side of working at a successful ... by kwillets on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:05PM (#18018654)
The IPO process is very tricky too; they want large holders to keep their stock as long as possible either to avoid tanking it or to keep the float small so it will bid up quickly. Naturally all these people can get out before the employee lockup ends though.
Re:Ask HN: What is the dark side of working at a successful ... by metajack on Monday September 17, 2018 @10:50AM (#18006420)
If you see such behavior, I encourage you to look for personal relationships. Many of those situations that I have observed the grifting new hires were friends of the investors or founders, etc.
Re:Ask HN: What is the dark side of working at a successful ... by gaius on Monday September 17, 2018 @11:17AM (#18006729)
My memory is hazy but the first time I saw this, they were all followers of the same guru as the founders. Not actually Scientology but a similar sort of thing. They lost it all in the dotcom crash anyway!