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Re:The iPhone SE was the best phone Apple ever made, and now... by neuronic on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:00PM (#17990895)
Of course this is a matter of taste, but I seriously don't get the hate for the new keyboard. It took me two days to get used to it. The one thing I concede is, that it is loud.
Re:The iPhone SE was the best phone Apple ever made, and now... by erobbins on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:08PM (#17990960)
It's super clacky, there's no key travel, and it's hard to blindly feel the edges of the keys. There's also no escape key.
Re:The iPhone SE was the best phone Apple ever made, and now... by extra88 on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:35PM (#17991167)
The 2018 keyboard is much less clacky than the 2016 one but the travel is the same. I’m glad most of my typing is on an external keyboard anyway.

I don’t have a problem with Esc being on the Touch Bar because it’s the leftmost target and nothing is that close to it. Maybe I’d feel differently if I was a regular vi user.

Re:The iPhone SE was the best phone Apple ever made, and now... by thewizardofaus on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:26PM (#17991103)
The key travel is very important. When you can type 140+ Words per minute key travel becomes important to stop rsi in the wrist.
Re:The iPhone SE was the best phone Apple ever made, and now... by sehugg on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:29PM (#17991119)
Sounds like my old Atari 400, except it did have Esc.
Re:The iPhone SE was the best phone Apple ever made, and now... by dsego on Friday September 14, 2018 @07:43PM (#17991982)
I liked it well enough until keycaps started sticking to my fingers and falling out while I was typing. I think the overheating weakens the tiny and fragile plastic hooks. Also, some keys get stuck or repeat letters but I got used to it.
Re:The iPhone SE was the best phone Apple ever made, and now... by tqkxzugoaupvwqr on Saturday September 15, 2018 @08:47AM (#17994083)
If it is a 200€ laptop, I might be okay with this. But paying 2800€ (15" model, least expensive configuration) and then not being able to work because the keyboard falls apart … unforgivable. Let’s hope Apple introduces a more reliable Pro laptop next year. Until then I have to plug along on my 2014 model.
Re:The iPhone SE was the best phone Apple ever made, and now... by epicide on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:14PM (#17991011)
For me, there was a huge difference between generations of the butterfly switches.

The first gen felt like typing on a flat surface for me, whereas the newer ones feel really nice to type on.