Re:Let’s bring back the Sabbath as an act against ‘total work’
by emodendroket on Friday September 14, 2018 @04:45PM
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To be fair, if the law itself is what is important you can see the logic in doing this. It is a way of thinking that is not my own but it has a certain internal consistency.
Re:Let’s bring back the Sabbath as an act against ‘total work’
by spiritcat on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:01PM
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Well ya the prohibition is about creating fire, why wouldn't you step on the elevator if it's just going to be going up and down anyway?
Re:Let’s bring back the Sabbath as an act against ‘total work’
by Itaxpica on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:30PM
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This is a common misconception, but the prohibition against using electronics on Shabbat has nothing to do with fire; it has to do with completing a circuit since "completing a construction" is one of the 39 specifically banned activities
Re:Let’s bring back the Sabbath as an act against ‘total work’
by schoen on Friday September 14, 2018 @06:14PM
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It seems that both justifications have been used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities_prohibited_on_Shabb...
"Many poskim ground their prohibition of operating electrical appliances in this melakha."
Re:Let’s bring back the Sabbath as an act against ‘total work’
by spiritcat on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:42PM
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ooh
Re:Let’s bring back the Sabbath as an act against ‘total work’
by bigpicture on Friday September 14, 2018 @04:45PM
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My oven, which is just a plain old GE oven, has a feature in which you set the temperature and cook time, and it will randomly turn on, cook for the prescribed time, and then turn off.
Re:Let’s bring back the Sabbath as an act against ‘total work’
by 13of40 on Friday September 14, 2018 @05:18PM
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"shabbos elevators"
There was one of those at a hotel I stayed at by the Dead Sea, but in general their elevator situation was different than the ones I've seen in the US and Europe: I encountered multiple elevators in Israel where you selected a floor at a central panel outside the elevator, then the elevator itself would arrive and take you to the floor, rather than having the buttons on the inside. I wasn't able to figure out (nor can I find online) whether that design was related to not doing something on the sabbath.
Re:Let’s bring back the Sabbath as an act against ‘total work’
by tomjakubowski on Friday September 14, 2018 @06:16PM
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This is called "destination dispatch" and, far as I know, has nothing to do with Judaism. The elevators in the buildings for IBM Watson in NYC and Munich both use destination dispatch. I should also note that it doesn't have anything to do with Watson either, they just came to mind.
For the kids, there are non-electrical devices made to look like hand-held video games.[2]
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdbkvJznmwU [2] http://www.kosherimage.com/watergame.html