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Re:We’re Measuring the Economy All Wrong by chimeracoder on Friday September 14, 2018 @01:33PM (#17989157)
> Economics has overdeveloped tools for reasoning based on price information in a "free" market of "rational" agents, and underdeveloped tools for actually valuing resources from first principles. The former corresponds to your first axis ("how much you want it") and the latter to the second axis ("how much it costs the world to let you have it"). That's why, when facing any hard problem, the economics solution is to assume that markets will figure it out i.e. the two axis are equivalent. (Further, whether the two should be conflated is actually a political decision, which is ignored in this sly exchange!)

This is not true at all. There is no conflation between "how much you want it" and "how much it costs the world to let you have it". Even the models taught in introductory undergraduate courses on economics are capable of addressing the "problems" you're describing.

Re:We’re Measuring the Economy All Wrong by ace_of_spades on Friday September 14, 2018 @02:18PM (#17989499)
Care to elaborate for the unenlighted? Constructive discussion can actually help to educate people :)
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Re:We’re Measuring the Economy All Wrong by chimeracoder on Friday September 14, 2018 @02:05PM (#17989395)
> It's almost as if the person commenting has no economic education whatsoever.

Unfortunately, this is par for the course for HN comment threads about economics and economic policy.

As someone who does have a degree in economics, it's as frustrating as sitting and listening to someone talk about why chemistry is broken because the Bohr model is incomplete and electrons don't inhabit shells.

Re:We’re Measuring the Economy All Wrong by hndamien on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:05AM (#18012384)
Arguing from a point of authority doesn't help enlighten anybody. I have a degree in economics too, it doesn't elucidate anything for a reader or make my arguments any more correct. Your logical fallacy is here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
Re:We’re Measuring the Economy All Wrong by mike10010100 on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @03:50PM (#18027168)
Then why not enunciate your argument and have a productive conversation instead of relying on logical fallacies?