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Re:Driverless Hype Collides with Merciless Reality by TheCoelacanth on Friday September 14, 2018 @10:50AM (#17987566)
"Constant deaths" = 1 per ~100 million miles driven

Self-driving cars might be able to beat that, but most of the self-driving car models aren't even close to 100 million miles driven.

Re:Driverless Hype Collides with Merciless Reality by candiodari on Saturday September 15, 2018 @03:58PM (#17995786)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_safety_in_the_U...

(from page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_safety_in_the_U... )

Furthermore self-driving cars are at this point ONLY driving through areas with a lot of pedestrians. You'd expect them, therefore, to have much higher accident fatalities than normal vehicles. Why ? They're always around pedestrians. Instead, in the first years of operation, they're safer than humans.

Even with Uber's less than stellar safety practices, and Tesla's ... well ... how do I put this politely ? [1] seems a good link. Let's just say Tesla owners could be more careful, especially since they signed a contract stating that they would be more careful (and youtube has much worse than that video). Given that that's how people use self-driving cars I would argue that's pretty damning for human driving skills.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT5-Z2MswgU

Re:Driverless Hype Collides with Merciless Reality by TheCoelacanth on Sunday September 16, 2018 @04:37PM (#18000960)
Not sure what your point is. That graph shows about 10 deaths per billion VMT, which is exactly the number I stated. It is a completely unfounded assertion that they are safer than humans.