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Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by stass on Thursday September 13, 2018 @01:14PM (#17980384)
Taking other people money by force is even more dangerous for democracy and economy.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by emodendroket on Thursday September 13, 2018 @02:00PM (#17980813)
Taken to its logical conclusion, this idea means we shouldn't have any government at all.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by chillacy on Thursday September 13, 2018 @02:27PM (#17981050)
Not sure if that’s the line of reasoning. A well known danger of democracy is rule by mob. For instance a tough thing to get right is protecting rights of minority groups. If everyone voted for their own direct benefit, we’d just be locking minorities up and taking their assets with power of the majority. Luckily doesn’t seem to happen much.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by emodendroket on Thursday September 13, 2018 @02:32PM (#17981098)
If the government taking things by force, or by the implied threat of force, is bad, then taxation is bad, and if you don't have any kind of taxation you don't have a government in any meaningful sense.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by chillacy on Thursday September 13, 2018 @05:58PM (#17983021)
I think taxes are a bit better because you're also agreeing to pay your own money (vs only taking other people's money only as the original commenter said). I had a different reading of "taking other people's money by force" as meaning specifically voting to tax a minority group more just because you can. This is based on the GP comment being "We should tax billionaires out of existence" as opposed to "taxes are immoral"

OP can clarify if necessary.

Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by emodendroket on Thursday September 13, 2018 @07:28PM (#17983605)
That isn't taxing a "minority group." It's just progressive taxation, an idea almost everyone accepts to some extent. "Taxing billionaires out of existence" could be achieved simply by increasing marginal tax rates.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by leetcrew on Friday September 14, 2018 @08:15AM (#17986617)
billionaires are literally a minority group. they certainly don't need protected status, but, whether or not it is "good" to take their money, they can't effectively oppose this just by voting.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by emodendroket on Friday September 14, 2018 @04:51PM (#17990830)
The argument for preventing one person to amass that much wealth is at least in part that it gives them tremendous political influence. The preferences of Sheldon Adelson arte far more consequential than an average voter living in the same district, for instance. Appropriating the language of "minority" discrimination, which traditionally refers to marginalized groups, to talk about people who are very rich strikes me as distasteful.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by leetcrew on Friday September 14, 2018 @08:13PM (#17992119)
one could just as easily make the argument that academics and social theorists have appropriated a word that has a commonly understood statistical meaning. no one objects to calling the alawites of syria a "minority group", even though they are relatively privileged and literally control the country. especially in the context of a (putative) democracy, it makes sense to use the word in the statistical sense.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by emodendroket on Friday September 14, 2018 @09:54PM (#17992517)
By your standard criminals are also a minority group.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by leetcrew on Friday September 14, 2018 @11:32PM (#17992850)
i mean yeah, in addition to actually being disenfranchised.
Re:Amazon's Bezos Launches $2B Fund to Help the Homeless by emodendroket on Saturday September 15, 2018 @08:58AM (#17994115)
Nonetheless, most of us would agree that some abridgement of rights is acceptable for this "minority group." This is why I don't think talking this way is helpful.