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Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by tosser00001 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @08:43AM (#17978120)
"There's no reason anyone has to respect ethno-nationalist views against immigrants."

There are plenty of reasons to be against the current immigration regime that don't involve ethno-nationalism but it's nearly impossible to forward any such arguments without being accused of being an ethno-nationalist.

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by whack on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:13AM (#17978312)
It sure doesn't help when our President says Mexican immigrants are "drug dealers and rapists", and wants to cut off immigration from "shithole countries".
Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by wemdyjreichert on Thursday September 13, 2018 @11:43AM (#17979493)
*hole countries was anecdotal and reported by someone who did disagree very much with Mr. Trump. Just pointing out it's unproven.
Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by whack on Thursday September 13, 2018 @02:16PM (#17980958)
You'd have to be extremely biased in your sources, to not believe that Trump said some variant of the above.

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/12/16885312/trump-shithole-countr...

Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) told the Post and Courier that his South Carolina colleague Sen. Lindsey Graham, who attended the meeting, told him Trump’s reported comments were “basically accurate.”

And Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ), who also didn’t attend the meeting, told the Washington Post he heard about Trump’s comments before they went public, and they matched the later reports.

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/16/16897016/trump-shithole-shitho...

Anonymous Republican sources have pushed the story that Trump in fact used the phrase “shithouse countries.” According to the Washington Post’s Josh Dawsey, Robert Costa, and Ashley Parker, Sens. Tom Cotton (R-AR) and David Perdue (R-GA) told the White House that’s what they remember Trump saying in the meeting.

Trump has apparently decided that the controversy is hurting him politically, so his allies are using this minor discrepancy to justify public denials that he said “shithole.”

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by danharaj on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:22AM (#17978376)
Like what?
Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by nailer on Thursday September 13, 2018 @11:09AM (#17979204)
I find it hard to believe you couldn't think of a reason to not support mass migration other than 'racism', but Sweden let around a million people into a country of 10 million in an unmanaged fashion which is causing a lot of social issues? Germany where Angela Merkel let in 5 million people and the CDU lost a huge amount of support after similar things happened?
Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by danharaj on Thursday September 13, 2018 @12:19PM (#17979784)
Quantify those issues. At the scale of millions of people (I'm going to assume your 50 million was a typo, not that you're innumerate or gullible), one must quantify.

If 100 people out of 100,000 who migrate cause problems, and they are all fleeing intolerable living conditions, then the only reasonable way you can say that all 100,000 should be shut out is if you value the welfare of the 99,900 so low that it is outweighed by the social harm caused by the 100 even after taking into account the benefits of migration.

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by nailer on Thursday September 13, 2018 @01:06PM (#17980308)
Most European migrants are financial migrants rather than refugees. A journalist went to Calais during the supposed 'Syrian refugee crisis' there and found 0 Syrians.
Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by OxO4 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @12:16PM (#17979764)
50 million people? Germany has a total population of 80 million, so something is definitely off with your numbers. What kind of "social issues" have immigrants caused in Sweden?
Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by nailer on Thursday September 13, 2018 @01:03PM (#17980281)
5 million, typo edited. The second is easily Googlable and not under dispute by anyone.
Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by antientropic on Thursday September 13, 2018 @02:33PM (#17981106)
I did Google it and I found 1.7 million refugee applications in Germany in the period 2008-2017. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_migrant_crisis#Asylum...)

Where did you get your 5 million from?

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by qwerty11111 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:28AM (#17978419)
Obviously controversial, but this could be one of the reasons some may fear immigration:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaul...

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by hef19898 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:42AM (#17978500)
Which is one of the worst examples ever. It was so highly politizised at the time. But you have point, it actually helped to form a certain narrative and a lot of people followed that narrative.
Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by qwerty11111 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:45AM (#17978528)
How is it a bad example? From Wikipedia itself...

> On 7 June, a Federal Criminal Police Office report confirmed that most of the perpetrators were of North African origin and had arrived in Germany during the European migrant crisis. Investigative results about the perpetrators were congruent with witnesses' statements.[48]

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by hef19898 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @09:53AM (#17978592)
Because it was one particular case and the numbers have been looked at isolated. That and the fact that the first reports have been exagerated. Not to even speak about the way right wing groups used these reports...

I'll leave it to you to research crime numbers like rape, theft andn such for carneval in Cologne or the Oktoberfest in Munich. Because These are the numbers that provide the context.

Disclaimer: That does not in the slightest way imply that any of These cases are defendable, the least of all rape. Still, context helps to prevent knee-jerk reactions.

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by OxO4 on Thursday September 13, 2018 @12:19PM (#17979783)
So because of one example, you are attributing criminal behavior to a whole group of people? Sounds like textbook racism to me.