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Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by ehsankia on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @11:44PM (#17975816)
Realistically there doesn't exist a good solution for this. That's why every single site out there with user content that is large enough is struggling with moderation.

There is no solution that scales up to billions of users, and while it's true that AI most likely won't work, it is the best they've got right now. Do you have a better solution? Because Google has hired some of the smartest people and even then they still are having issues with Youtube every other week, so I'm sure you'd be paid a pretty hefty sum if you could solve this.

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by raxxorrax on Thursday September 13, 2018 @02:51AM (#17976568)
> Do you have a better solution?

Let the receiver evaluate the information? Sure, some will have false believes. Cannot change that and you shouldn't even attempt to do so. Because authority has been wrong to an equal degree.

The whole premise falls flat in my opinion.

There won't be any viable solution, if the problem cannot even be defined. Currently it is based on a feeling that there are mean and false statements on social media.

And this fact is emphasized by parties who like more control about content.

Anyone aware of the current capabilities of AI should know, that it is no solution, at least in its current state. Sure, big tech likes to signal otherwise. But these statements just underline their business interest in that sector. Nothing wrong with that.

Wanting to tighten control about content is.

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by toofy on Thursday September 13, 2018 @07:09AM (#17977663)
> Let the receiver evaluate the information

This ignores one of Google's primary missions. As jlebar posted in a different comment

> evaluating trust on the internet using computers (call it AI or not) is literally Google's core competency.

This idea that we should pretend as if there is no problem to solve seems incredibly strange to me. Particularly when we know unreliable information is being weaponized by bad actors to influence entire populations of people. This is a very real problem which needs solving.

Humans have limited time for research and we value reliability. Consider all of the hype around the recent severe decline in trust of authenticity and reliability of products purchased through Amazon. We tend to prefer shopping at places where we know the products we purchase will be of a certain standard. We go to trusted sources (as amazon was previously) because we don't have the time to carefully evaluate each of the many many items we purchase every week. We choose a store we trust will have already done that quality check.

It seems as if Google believes it is important for it's business that the information it prioritizes has a certain quality or reliability level. Google prefers their information be more like a Target store than a back alley tent. And if the amount of people who shop at Target stores over back alley tents is any indicator, I'm guessing Google is probably on to something.

I'm certainly skeptical about who should be able to decide what is "true" on subjective issues, but I don't see how we can pretend as if there isn't a very real problem of actual provably false information being weaponized.

I for one am fairly busy and just as I don't have time to do a deep dive of research into whether or not the shampoo, deodorant, milk, cereal, orange juice, whiskey, dish soap, cold medicine etc etc etc are fake; I also don't have time to deep dive research if the 30+ articles I skim everyday are provable outright lies. Not only don't I have the time, I don't necessarily have the inclination.

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by leetcrew on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @06:51PM (#18028275)
> We tend to prefer shopping at places where we know the products we purchase will be of a certain standard.

we don't just prefer; we pay to shop at places where we trust that the products will be of high quality (or at least authentic).

no one i know around my age pays for any news whatsoever (including myself, admittedly). this should tell you something about how much we value quality news.

Re:Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video] by snaky on Thursday September 13, 2018 @07:29AM (#17977749)
> Do you have a better solution?

There is a somewhat working solution, but it might be incompatible with American voter (for some time) https://www.scmp.com/news/china/poliitics/article/2162036/ch...