Re:A proposal to roll back exclusionary zoning would make ho...
by mixmastamyk on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @01:00PM
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> large metropolises which can't absorb the growth
They choose not to.
> more dense housing in those cities… turn them into concrete boxes
A "US NIMBY-like" viewpoint. Paris is denser than the average city and lovely, as are many EU cities. US cities designed before the car took over usually nicer and more space-efficient as well, but are few and mostly on the East coast.
Re:A proposal to roll back exclusionary zoning would make ho...
by village-idiot on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:05PM
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Suburbia is a short term and unsustainable model. The long term costs of purposefully watering down your economic activity per infrastructure dollar is horrible.
Re:A proposal to roll back exclusionary zoning would make ho...
by cagenut on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @02:08PM
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why? just because you grew up that way? stop fighting it. lots of sprawl/small-cities is bad. to put it a little (but not a lot) hyperbolically: we should retreat to megalopolises and declare everything else state parks.
Yes, but that sum in the US is huge. Drive around the midwest or any region outside of an urban core and its empty space as far as the eye can see.
The problem is large-scale economic and demographic changes. The US used to have:
* A culture that prized living in suburbia away from dense areas.
* Labor-intensive agriculture that provided a lot of jobs in rural areas.
* Labor-intensive manufacturing that provided a lot of jobs in a large number of smaller cities.
All of those forces encouraged the population to spread out. Those forces are evaporating. The suburbs are now seen as soulless sources of miserable commutes. Automation and consolidation has dramatically reduced the number of farm employees needed for a given square acre of land. Automation and cheap imports from other countries have eliminated manufacturing jobs.
Without those forces counterbalancing things, there is a strong trend towards consolidating into large metropolises which can't absorb the growth that quickly.
We can try to stuff every more dense housing in those cities and gradually turn them into concrete boxes. Some amount of densification is good. But instead of investing almost entirely in that, I really wish the US was working to try to make small and mid-size cities more desirable too.