Re:We Can Stop Pretending LTE-M Is a Low-Power WAN
by dfox on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @06:42PM
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The thing is that LTE-M allows you to have real IP connectivity in contrast to other true LPWAN technologies built on datagrams that are sufficiently small that any real cryptography is non-trivial challenge and can be transmited once each minute/hour/day. If there is any unserviced niche it is in duplex bursts of realtime traffic (ie. what you usually get for satellite telematics, but for IoT it has to be few orders of magnitude cheaper)
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Re:We Can Stop Pretending LTE-M Is a Low-Power WAN
by jpnorair on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @10:09PM
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A few things. (1) If the payload is shorter than the key length (e.g. 128 bits) then crypto is actually really strong (and easy). For long payloads, you need to work a lot harder. (2) For doing a public key handshake, you can do it without a huge packet using one of the elliptical curve algos, but for any public key handshake you need a reasonably short duration of the handshake in order for it to be adequately secure. That's a bigger challenge than the data size. Low power LTE Cat M1 or NB-IoT systems aren't any better at practically serving low latency sessions than most LPWANs are. (3) "secure elements" should be called "insecure elements" when the items they are installed in are remotely operated in public environments. (4) Carriers tend to use TCP/IP with LTE, which is more of a limitation than a benefit, because it prevents any manner of broadcasting. There are a lot of applications that can be low power if they are broadcasted, but will never be low power (or easy) via TCP. (5) The direction LTE has gone, in my opinion, makes it undesirable for a lot of applications. It is nice for low-volume monitoring applications. So in a sense I think LTE as a LPWAN is really the great solution for niche use-cases.
Re:We Can Stop Pretending LTE-M Is a Low-Power WAN
by tialaramex on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @03:14AM
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Your claim (1) looks a lot like hubris to me unless you're imagining a product that sends only a single payload during its lifetime.