How America lost its love for the stick shift

Re:How America lost its love for the stick shift by gnicholas on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @06:20PM (#17963908)

I've wondered how this is issue is addressed in EVs that offer one-pedal driving. Do they show the brake lights when deceleration exceeds a certain rate?

Similarly, when I'm braking very lightly in my plugin-in hybrid in order to charge the battery all the way down a long hill, I wish there were a way to not have the brake lights activated the whole time. It's only barely slowing me down, and I've driven other cars that decelerated more going down the same hill just due to wind drag and rolling resistance.

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Re:How America lost its love for the stick shift by hug on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @06:28PM (#17963957)

Since engine braking is an extremely common way for motorcycles to reduce speed, there are any number of aftermarket products that are essentially an accelerometer inline with the brake light, which will turn on or flash the brake light when sudden deceleration is detected.

I can see no reason why this wouldn’t work equally well for cars.

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Re:How America lost its love for the stick shift by taeric on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @06:36PM (#17964016)

I was curious on this, so quickly checked a search. Some quora answers indicated it is a matter of regulation. General feel I got was it was expected to change with newer vehicles, but inertia in the current way things are certified will be a barrier.

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Re:How America lost its love for the stick shift by kenhwang on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @06:36PM (#17964023)

Federal regulation requires brake lights to be on if deceleration from regenerative braking to be over specified thresholds.

edit: apparently, it's UN regulation, not federal.

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Re:How America lost its love for the stick shift by taeric on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @06:53PM (#17964127)

Cool to know. Do you have up to date links to that regulation?

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Re:How America lost its love for the stick shift by kenhwang on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @07:06PM (#17964214)

See below link for references to relevant regulation.

https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/traffic/rules-of-the-r...

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Re:How America lost its love for the stick shift by taeric on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @06:22PM (#17963924)

I'm curious why you care about the brake lights being on if you are actually braking. Even only slightly.

Though, to directly answer your question, I don't know how cars that only have a single pedal work with this. Embarrassingly, I didn't realize those existed, so would be as interested as you in the answer.

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Re:How America lost its love for the stick shift by awad on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @07:42PM (#17964393)

It's not that the cars have one pedal, it's that you can get by with one pedal as lifting off the accelerator will induce the regenerative braking and slow the car down. On the Tesla at least this is an optional feature since it can be jarring to people who haven't used it.

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