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Re:Poor mental health at work 'widespread' by danieltillett on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @01:24AM (#17957369)
This is what happens when you make the definition of mental illness so loose that almost everyone is captured. While it might help those with an axe to grind or a vested interest in ramping the numbers, it doesn’t help those with serious mental illness problems.
Re:Poor mental health at work 'widespread' by mirimir on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @01:32AM (#17957394)
That's a useful perspective, I think. I mean, isn't it useful to distinguish between "poor fit for job" and "mental health issues"? Would we expect mentally healthy people to do well, and be happy with, any arbitrary sort of job?
Re:Poor mental health at work 'widespread' by danieltillett on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @01:46AM (#17957441)
The supposed aim of all this trivialization of mental illness appears to be to destigmatize mental illness, but in practice it just prevent us from helping those who really need help. When 75% of the population is labeled as having a mental illness then we can’t find those who really need help - the finding a needle in a pile of needles problem.

The reality is most people are unhappy with their lives (at times) and always have been and only a small percentage are seriously unwell.

Re:Poor mental health at work 'widespread' by projektir on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @04:38AM (#17958067)
> The reality is most people are unhappy with their lives (at times) and always have been and only a small percentage are seriously unwell.

If you ask me most people being unhappy with their lives is a problem.

Re:Poor mental health at work 'widespread' by mirimir on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @09:05AM (#17959338)
Isn't that rather a symptom of modern society? As others have noted.

Still, it's certainly not that modern society is horrible. Far more people (especially in "developed" countries) live far better lives (materially, anyway) than at any time before. But maybe what's missing is meaning. Family and other social connections. Like "Why am I doing this?"

Maybe it's just an unavoidable consequence of the extreme specialization of labor in modern society. And that there are many important jobs that just aren't much fun. Or at least, aren't acknowledged or rewarded well enough. Don't come with enough status.

Re:Poor mental health at work 'widespread' by projektir on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @12:18PM (#17961095)
Why would this be a modern phenomenon? Nothing I've read of history leads me to believe this is a modern phenomenon. People in the modern world just have more of a voice.
Re:Poor mental health at work 'widespread' by mirimir on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @02:17PM (#17962050)
I guess. So have people always hated their jobs? Maybe so. Even hunter-gatherers probably complain about needing to hunt and gather all the time.
Re:Poor mental health at work 'widespread' by grovehaw on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @06:09AM (#17958398)
In the UK the definitions have a fair amount of consensus and the loss of productivity is one of the motivations for a range of employers organisations to support this initiative.

The UK's Mental Health Foundation gives these figures:

   >  1. Mixed anxiety & depression is the most common mental disorder in Britain,
   >      with 7.8% of people meeting criteria for diagnosis.
   >  2. 4-10% of people in England will experience depression in their lifetime.
   >  3. Common mental health problems such as depression and anxiety are distributed 
   >       according to a gradient of economic disadvantage across society. The poorer 
   >       and more disadvantaged are disproprotionately[sic] affected by common mental health 
   >       problems and their adverse consequences.
   >  4. Mixed anxiety and depression has been estimated to cause one 
   >      fifth of days lost from work in Britain.
   >  5. One adult in six had a common mental disorder.
https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/publications/fundamental-fac... [pdf]