Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs?
by pixl97 on Saturday September 08, 2018 @11:43AM
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Maybe take a larger view of it. Instead of just looking at Intel, look at the companies buying intel chips, are they getting more output with the same dollar input?
Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs?
by phkahler on Tuesday September 11, 2018 @03:06PM
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>> look at the companies buying intel chips, are they getting more output with the same dollar input?
Probably not. The ones who were constrained by computing power are now doing higher quality work - FEA comes to mind as something that seems to produce more accurate results with increased computing capability. Games get "better" but their market doesn't get bigger - just more demanding. Hollywood does more CGI, but that doesn't actually increase their market. These are all things that don't affect GDP.
This is a terrible way to view it. If we pack twice as much on a chip vs last year, did output go up? But price went down by about the same amount. Should we measure output in transistors? Printed die area? Dollar price of chips? Number of man-hours required to produce things? Labor cost?
If Intel spent a bunch of cash on a new fab, made circuits with twice as many transistors, reduced prices on the old model and sold the new ones at the old price, then sold the same number as last year, did "output" really change? If yo u think it did, then I ask if it changed in any way that is meaningful to economic measures - it didn't change GDP, it didn't change cost or amount of labor, it didn't even change the companies profits.