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Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs? by Spooky23 on Friday September 07, 2018 @01:18PM (#17935995)
The goal of society should be to maximize employment.
Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs? by jjeaff on Friday September 07, 2018 @01:37PM (#17936127)
Really? I'd rather maximize quality of life.
Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs? by airstrike on Friday September 07, 2018 @01:47PM (#17936208)
No, it shouldn't. The goal of society is to maximize access to goods and services. Employment is just a simpler proxy to optimize for, but there's a difference between the two.
Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs? by fiter on Friday September 07, 2018 @01:27PM (#17936066)
Is there any particular reason you think this should be the goal of society?
Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs? by brandonmenc on Friday September 07, 2018 @01:55PM (#17936281)
In the realm of work, the goal should be (is) to maximize productivity.

The problem is that we haven't come up with a way to properly pay people in a system where productivity has increased past the point that "full employment" - in the traditional sense - is no longer needed, or possible.

Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs? by imgabe on Friday September 07, 2018 @02:00PM (#17936326)
Everyone is employed in a hunter gatherer society. Do you find that preferable?
Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs? by EliRivers on Friday September 07, 2018 @01:55PM (#17936280)
Surely the (unattainable) ideal should be full unemployment?
Re:Is Automation Really to Blame for Lost Manufacturing Jobs? by twblalock on Friday September 07, 2018 @01:36PM (#17936120)
No, the goal of society should be to maximize wealth, which can then be distributed as we see fit.

If companies had to maximize employment they would need to automate fewer things, which would lower productivity and result in less wealth being produced. The entire society would end up being poorer.

This happened in the Communist bloc within living memory and we don't need to make the same mistake again. It's not a coincidence that the countries with the best quality of life are the ones that allow corporations to pursue wealth creation over other goals and then redistribute the wealth through taxation and social benefits. If you want to redistribute wealth it's good to actually have some wealth.