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Re:Don't Steal Money from Day Traders Before They Lose It by sumedh on Friday September 07, 2018 @01:57AM (#17932176)
> I'm too conservative to bet the bank, but I haven't been wrong yet.

You are being cocky because you are dabbling with small money, when you play with big money, your emotions will immediate change and that is when you will make mistakes.

Re:Don't Steal Money from Day Traders Before They Lose It by speedplane on Friday September 07, 2018 @02:01AM (#17932193)
> when you play with big money, your emotions will immediate change and that is when you will make mistakes

That's precisely why I don't play with big money, not that I have so much anyway. I wonder though, if I was playing with someone else's "big money", if you could keep those emotions in check.

Re:Don't Steal Money from Day Traders Before They Lose It by fossuser on Friday September 07, 2018 @02:09AM (#17932218)
That’s the real trick - convince others to give you a lot of money and when you win you get a big cut and when you lose it’s not your money and you just do something else.

Seems to be the way all hedge funds operate, maybe can even charge membership fees too.

Re:Don't Steal Money from Day Traders Before They Lose It by Lavery on Friday September 07, 2018 @09:58AM (#17934250)
Part of the trick to convincing people to invest with you is having a significant amount of your own money in the fund. So that's one hurdle here. It's possible to raise enough that your management fee renders irrelevant whatever you might lose trading your own money, but at that point you're in big league hedge fund scale anyway and will be very tightly scrutinized.

Also, losing client money is just as emotionally difficult and stressful and guilt inducing--maybe more so--than losing your own for anyone with a half normal sense of responsibility and fiduciary duty.

Re:Don't Steal Money from Day Traders Before They Lose It by speedplane on Friday September 07, 2018 @02:10AM (#17932221)
Right... most traders get big bonuses when they win, but if they lose, at worst they get fired. If you can win for a while and then get fired eventually, you'll still end up on top.
Re:Don't Steal Money from Day Traders Before They Lose It by gaius on Friday September 07, 2018 @06:11AM (#17933095)
Trader A makes $10m in year 1 and gets a $1m bonus. She loses $10m in year 2, and gets no bonus so the firm is down her $1m bonus.

Trader B makes $1m in years 1 and 2. That’s too low to trigger a bonus, but his firm is up $2m.

The system doesn’t reward trader B so he has to choose: do what’s right for the firm, or take big risks in the hope of a bonus

(Simplifying dramatically)

Re:Don't Steal Money from Day Traders Before They Lose It by cheez on Saturday September 08, 2018 @12:40PM (#17941575)
Many firms implement clawbacks for this instance
Re:Don't Steal Money from Day Traders Before They Lose It by downandout on Friday September 07, 2018 @02:50AM (#17932347)
>and that is when you will make mistakes.

While some trades using this method may not work out, the idea that he must make mistakes simply because he is risking larger amounts is not at all a given. Some people have no sensitivity to such things.

I know a couple of advantage gamblers that sometimes play $10,000+/hand on blackjack, and it might as well be $5 to them - not because they are super wealthy, but because they know they have an advantage, and understand that the math will work out over the long term. Whether they win or lose on a given hand, or wind up winning or losing on a given day, is meaningless to them and they rarely get emotional about it. The same certainly applies to many stock traders.

Re:Don't Steal Money from Day Traders Before They Lose It by skookumchuck on Friday September 07, 2018 @02:45AM (#17932333)
True enough. I've realized that my investment strategy would be completely different if I was using Monopoly money, and I'd probably have made 10x as much money.