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Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by jsmcgd on Thursday October 14, 2010 @06:24PM (#1792907)
Isn't the fact that you are guaranteed to pay legal fees, which the poor will always find expensive, to be the greater obstacle to suing? I think the 'English rule' would encourage many poor people to litigate if they believed their case was strong.
Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by jessriedel on Thursday October 14, 2010 @06:45PM (#1792968)
> Isn't the fact that you are guaranteed to pay legal fees, which the poor will always find expensive, to be the greater obstacle to suing?

With correct insurance/lawyer-agreements, the poor can set it up so that they have no chance of paying anything. In effect, they sell part of the expected value of their suit to decrease their variance to the point that they do not pay money in any circumstance.

>I think the 'English rule' would encourage many poor people to litigate if they believed their case was strong.

Well, to be precise, it would encourage many poor people to litigate if their lawyer (or their insurance company) believed their case was strong. And isn't this exactly what we want? That justice is pursued?

Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by georgecmu on Thursday October 14, 2010 @07:03PM (#1793017)
With correct insurance/lawyer-agreements, the poor can set it up so that they have no chance of paying anything.

It's not obvious that loser-pays would prevent them from setting it up as well.

Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by joe_the_user on Thursday October 14, 2010 @09:57PM (#1793395)
I have friend who cases against the police and others on a contingency basis.

Believe me, they do not have any capital to invest to indemnifying their client against a judgment. None.

The possibilities of losing a fair amount of money in case of this sort would essentially write the police a blank check to engage in whatever without threat of lawsuit.

Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by georgecmu on Thursday October 14, 2010 @10:06PM (#1793416)
I don't think the commenter I replied had these types of cases in mind. I think he meant "We don't get paid unless we get money for you" ambulance chaser type of lawyers.
Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by joe_the_user on Friday October 15, 2010 @12:04AM (#1793661)
Uh...

1. We're talking about changing laws, so it would affect all lawyers pretty much equally.

2. I don't think any supposed '"We don't get paid unless we get money for you" ambulance chasers' have a lot of cash either.

Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by georgecmu on Friday October 15, 2010 @11:17PM (#1797231)
1. We're talking about changing laws, so it would affect all lawyers pretty much equally.

Can you elaborate on this point? I don't see how a change in laws must affect all lawyers pretty much equally at all.

2. I don't think any supposed '"We don't get paid unless we get money for you" ambulance chasers' have a lot of cash either.

Seems like they have enough cash to take out huge adverts on TV and in phone books.

Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by notahacker on Friday October 15, 2010 @07:23AM (#1794230)
There are plenty of ways of censuring policemen which don't involve offering plaintiffs a risk-free way of enriching themselves.
Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by iuytguyhj on Friday October 15, 2010 @12:32PM (#1795167)
Suppose your lawyer thinks you have a 90% chance of winning - against a neighbour who might run up a $1000 bill for legal fees, the same as you. Then it's worth the risk.

Now suppose you are up against a bank that can run up $10M in fees (or claim their in-house lawyers cost that) - now to be $1000 at risk you need a case that is 99.999% sure before the lawyer's insurance company will let them take it.

Re:Loser-Pays makes lawsuits fairer in Europe. It could work... by jsmcgd on Friday October 15, 2010 @01:59AM (#1793810)
Yes this is exactly what we want. I said this implying it was a good thing.