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Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by djschnei on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @10:29AM (#17918273)
What "historic wrongs" are keeping women or minorities out of the technology field? Honestly curious.

> not a mindless focus on ever-higher productivity.

Ugh. I said, "improve the output and speed of innovation".

Those two things are what will actually help humanity collectively. You're equality of outcome wet dream will do the opposite.

Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by jlelonm on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @10:43AM (#17918403)
I asked my girlfriend this, and she said a few things:

1) It looked tedious and frustrating to learn.

2) It's filled with a bunch of dudes, which makes her uncomfortable.

3) It doesn't come "naturally" to her so she thinks it'd be frustrating in the long run as well.

Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by umanwizard on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @11:04AM (#17918617)
So basically, she didn't want to do it for a variety of reasons, and freely decided not to.

How was anyone wronged here?

Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by michaelt on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @12:04PM (#17919179)
Depends if you think anyone is wronged by the gender pay gap, and whether (2) is one of the foundations of the gender pay gap.
Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by emodendroket on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @11:50AM (#17919038)
Our supposedly free choices are mediated by circumstance. Even in this apology (and really, am I supposed to be impressed with hearsay from a single woman?) one of the reasons is "I didn't want to enter a discipline that was overwhelmingly male."
Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by emodendroket on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @11:15AM (#17918713)
Thanks for your rigorous research.
Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by sj3k on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @11:00AM (#17918580)
> What "historic wrongs" are keeping women or minorities out of the technology field? Honestly curious.

Hundreds of years of systemic and societal oppression. Really how do people not get this?

Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by yourbandsucks on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @11:05AM (#17918621)
I think people are unconvinced that applying affirmative action to tech hiring addresses or chips away at that much broader problem.

Especially when they're not the ones oppressing anyone. And double-especially if we're hiring people who are unqualified and uninterested in tech just to pad the diversity stats. I'm here to do stuff. I care about broader social issues too, but I go to work to code.

Not trying to strawman or misrepresent you -- just saying that the connection from tech hiring to things that happened before the invention of the transistor isn't necessarily self-evident to everyone.

Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by djschnei on Thursday September 06, 2018 @02:26PM (#17928301)
I asked a very specific question... your progressive buzzwords aren't answers.
Re:Female, minority students took AP computer science in rec... by emodendroket on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @11:16AM (#17918717)
Well, the implications are unpleasant for a lot of us