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Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by Phlarp on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @03:59PM (#17912297)
Or you're just ahead of the nightmare service scenario described above and the actuaries don't know how to price it in yet. If so; Model S owners may get assessed in line with a similar price point internal combustion luxury sedan.
Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by Diederich on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @04:11PM (#17912371)
Perhaps.

Since their introduction over 6 years ago, well over 200,000 Model S' have been sold, and Geico has insured quite a few of them.

> actuaries don't know how to price it in yet

This is pretty far from my field of expertise, so I can't make any kind of directed comment. I'll just say that it strikes me as unlikely that Geico either doesn't have enough data yet and/or doesn't know what it's doing.

I don't know much about

Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by Phlarp on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @06:01PM (#17913223)
What percentage of that 200,000 is in California? I don't think the sample size is near large enough, nor properly distributed to build a comprehensive risk model around.

I'm not a subject matter expert either but I would love to hear from someone in the industry.

Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by close04 on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @04:06AM (#17915976)
It doesn't matter how many were sold but how easy/cheap is to fix them when insurance is needed.

For Tesla parts are rare and expensive, authorized service partners are rare and expensive, so fixing the car costs a lot.

Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by cc439 on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @04:22PM (#17912442)
Car insurance doesn't cover repairs, it's actually insurance, not an all inclusive payment plan like health "insurance".
Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by Spooky23 on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @08:17PM (#17914040)
There are no parts available from anyone but Tesla. So when the $2,500 plastic lens assembly for your brakes is back ordered 3 months, the insurance company is stuck with your rental coverage.
Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by tcoff91 on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @11:09PM (#17914762)
Why is it that Tesla is the only parts provider when other car companies have aftermarket parts?
Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by btilly on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @12:23AM (#17915020)
My immediate guess is because other car companies outsource the production of most of the parts, and the companies who make those parts are happy to make more to sell on the aftermarket.

Tesla manufactures parts itself, and is still getting their main production lines working right.

Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by lazyjones on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @03:17AM (#17915708)
Tesla has plenty of parts built by other car makers / suppliers.

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/05/tesla-blames-bosch-recall-...

Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by btilly on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @07:19PM (#17922672)
Tesla does. But builds most of their parts in house. And even outsourced parts may wind up inside of the part you need to replace, and therefore you're still bottlenecked on Tesla.
Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by Spooky23 on Wednesday September 05, 2018 @02:31PM (#17920714)
Ever try to find a service manual for a Tesla?

They want to control everything, but are too hard up to stock parts.

Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by hcknwscommenter on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @05:10PM (#17912837)
Perhaps you and I use different terminology? Parent comment refers to "full coverage", which I believe includes the costs of repairs no matter whose fault it is.
Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by Tenhundfeld on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @05:26PM (#17912955)
Full coverage auto insurance still only covers repairs from accidents. It doesn't cover the cost of, say, brake pads needing to be replaced or a window motor going bad.

For covering normal wear and tear maintenance, that would be an auto warranty – or extended warranty, service contract, protection plan, etc.

At least, those are the standard terms in the United States.

Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by Phlarp on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @05:59PM (#17913207)
Anecdote: last year I was repairing a bumper on my older Ford sedan, this was in Minneapolis mid winter (so tis the season for mild-severe body damage) and one of the body shops I got a quote from was also the only authorized Tesla dealership in several hundred miles. They had an entire lot just for body damaged Tesla's waiting on parts. The owner commented to me that they were getting Tesla's hauled from southern Iowa for repair. Nothing like a 500 mile flatbed ride to really spice up the total cost of repair.
Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by TheSpiceIsLife on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @06:52PM (#17913549)
It seems like there's some confusion here with regard to auto insurance, warranties, and regular maintenance.

As far as I'm aware warranties only cover faulty / defective parts (and labour to replace), insurance is intended as accident cover, everything else is regular maintenance.

Re:Mercedes Readies First Tesla Rival in $12B Attack by village-idiot on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @05:44PM (#17913087)
It does however factor in the likelihood of a crash, and the cost of repairing the vehicle after a crash. So if the 3 is more expensive to repair than other similar vehicles, the insurance would cost more.