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Re:1K ZX Chess by spacehome on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @11:30AM (#17909695)
It's hard to reconcile this:

> It was the smallest implementation of chess on any computer until its record was broken in January 2015 by the PC-compatible BootChess.

with this:

> 1K ZX Chess uses only 672 bytes of RAM,[2] but implements chess rules except for castling, promotion, and en passant, including a computer opponent.

If you don't include castling, promotion, and en passant, the game isn't chess anymore, or at least it hasn't been for a couple hundred years.

Re:1K ZX Chess by pmden on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @11:53AM (#17909900)
I believe boot chess also does not implement two of those three, which makes it a fine comparison. Promotion is something I expect most people know, castling is something they might know, but en passant is hardly common. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the number of people who play chess without knowing that rule exceed those who play by FIDE rules.

Whatever the case, it is still a variant of chess, so I see no problem calling it chess.

Re:1K ZX Chess by umanwizard on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @12:46PM (#17910434)
Promotion shouldn't be compared to castling/en-passant here.

A game without castling or en passant would be similar enough in spirit that we could call it a "chess variant". Removing promotion, on the other hand, would result in a wildly different game.

I actually suspect it'd be impossible to win against any non-beginners, making it more similar to tic-tac-toe than to chess.

Re:1K ZX Chess by spacehome on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @11:55AM (#17909922)
En passant comes up a lot more often when you don't know the rule.
Re:1K ZX Chess by lifeisstillgood on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @11:41AM (#17909790)
But ... that's like moaning that Bannister broke the four minute mile but collapsed at the finish line.

1K is a hellava achievement

Re:1K ZX Chess by mikeash on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @12:26PM (#17910215)
It would be more like moaning that he broke the four minute mile but collapsed fifty feet before the finish line. Should it be counted if you didn’t finish?

This program is awesome, but it’s not quite chess.

Re:1K ZX Chess by spacehome on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @11:54AM (#17909911)
Nonsense. Bannister ran a mile. I've made lots of programs that were under 1K. They weren't chess, either.
Re:1K ZX Chess by jermaustin1 on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @12:17PM (#17910127)
I don't like how negative this comment is, but the logic is flawless. I have also made a lot of "<1K not-chess" games.