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Re:Can Beethoven send takedown requests? by Zigurd on Friday August 31, 2018 @07:36AM (#17884657)
"Are you going to tell them they have no right to their own work anymore 20 years after they had one of their most successful releases?"

In a word, yes. The entire purpose of copyright is to enrich the commons by granting a limited term monopoly. Without that purpose in mind, copyright loses legitimacy.

It's a government granted right, and, in the US, there is specific authorization in the constitution to make such a grant. The term could be set to any term, and there would be no underlying constitutional of inherent human rights case against such a change. Unlike actual rights, copyright is whatever governments say it is.

Re:Can Beethoven send takedown requests? by yoz-y on Friday August 31, 2018 @07:46AM (#17884719)
All rights, human rights included, are just some arbitrary rules some part of humans have decided to follow.

These laws could also set the counter for let's say 5 years after the death of all of the original authors or something like that. There is no reason for these rights to transfer indefinitely.

Re:Can Beethoven send takedown requests? by Zigurd on Friday August 31, 2018 @09:50AM (#17885549)
In many constitutional systems, rights are assumed to exist, and rights are protected by wording that prohibit the government from infringing them.

That's not how patents and copyright work. These are government granted monopolies. The wording goes the other way around: The government is authorized to grant these monopolies. That's very unlike rights to life, property, etc. Patents and copyright don't come from the same tradition as proper human rights. They're different, and there is no human rights argument against limiting them sharply, at least not in the US constitution.

Re:Can Beethoven send takedown requests? by asmithmd1 on Friday August 31, 2018 @11:07AM (#17886163)
You need to read the US Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

The signers knew what they were doing was against the Kings laws - but they said, for the first time, there are higher laws that everyone is entitled to. Copyright and patents, while maybe good law, are not among these.

Re:Can Beethoven send takedown requests? by yoz-y on Sunday September 02, 2018 @03:12PM (#17898146)
For me the important thing is that _they said_ that there are higher laws. Don't take me wrong, I do like the human rights and all. But they are just a man made construct, there is no higher power bestowing any of them upon us–it is up to humanity to ensure that we keep them.