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Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by TeMPOraL on Friday August 31, 2018 @05:49AM (#17884224)
> You honestly believe that had Bird, initially an unheard of company, gone to say, the city of Los Angeles and said "We'd like to put scooters everywhere, is that cool?" They'd have said "sure"?

Yes? I'd assume it would take finding someone friendly who works for the city, getting them interested in the concept, and getting their help and support in navigating the process, but yes, I'd absolutely expect the city to say "sure", maybe "sure, with caveats". Hell, maybe the city folks could find a way to finance half your deployment with taxpayer money. It's not like city administration exists only to sit on their collective butt and default-deny every request.

Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by WalterSear on Friday August 31, 2018 @10:41AM (#17885949)
You live in a way cooler city than I ever have.
Re:San Francisco Denies Scooter Permits for Bird, Lime, Uber... by TeMPOraL on Friday August 31, 2018 @11:07AM (#17886164)
Maybe. But have you checked if your city isn't cool too?

Were I only following the local media and other people's opinion on our city, I'd still be believing it's all bunch of busybodies led serving a no-good city president. But, as a part of leading a local Hackerspace, I ended up involved in city-NGO cooperation space. I've interacted with both city officials and private organizations trying to run publicly beneficial projects in the city, and it turns out my city is really willing to help, to partner, to support.

Of course, the local and national politics sometimes leak through and create issues, so it's not all roses. But I left the space with the impression that one only has to try to start a friendly conversation, and there's plenty of city officials, with budgets behind them, willing to cooperate with your new endeavour.

EDIT: Oh, and yes, there are procedures. Things move much slower than you expect, and if you're trying to get some of the city money for the project, you end up organizing public consultations and preparing recommendation reports to the city, and doing other busywork that may seem, or even be, pointless in the case of your project. It can be frustrating.