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Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by phil21 on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @10:26AM (#17868420)
I'm Gen X, and unless you count message boards and HN-like places I've never used social media.

Not because I thought "the music of this generation sucks" but because it was easy to see the horrific way the Internet was going to go with walled gardens and centralization. I predicted 10 years ago if you uploaded and tagged photos on facebook you were giving up 100% of your privacy forever, as now every single photo of you ever taken (private or in public) will eventually be tracked to a name. I think generations coming up today really missed out on seeing the potential of the Internet, and what's it's become is nothing resembling the dreams of the 90's.

There are far more reasons to be wary and not participate in social media than "I'm just better than everyone".

And yes - it's a huge hit to your ability to continue an active social life. But things like SMS, Instant Messenger phones, e-mail, etc. still exist. The other downside is you tend to collect friends willing to deal with that, so it can kind of put you into a bubble if you don't reach outside your comfort zone.

I've found dating someone with an already established social media presence (e.g. too late to opt out, why bother) is a decent compromise :)

Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by ryandrake on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:11AM (#17868807)
> And yes - it's a huge hit to your ability to continue an active social life.

Also Gen X, also don’t touch social media, and I don’t agree with this at all, despite how much it gets repeated here. Staying away from Facebook has had zero effect on my social life or ability to catch up with friends and family. In fact, I’m busier than ever outside of work and home. I assure you all, there are plenty of ways to keep in touch and maintain an active social life without scrolling through a company moderated ‘feed’ on your phone. The old-school ways still work fine and, as a bonus, don’t require you to be glued to your phone.

Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by mywittyname on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @12:00PM (#17869241)
If you were in the dating pool, you would likely agree with that statement.
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by andrepd on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @01:25PM (#17870014)
Unless I'm missing something, just give your phone number and text.
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by always_good on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @03:48PM (#17871237)
While that never died, social media is the modern rolodex. And on top of that, someone can jog their memory of you and warm the iron back up a little bit.

Swapping social media details has been more effective for me because often I don't pounce on a number immediately. And I would hate to lose contact with someone just because I didn't.

Social media keeps someone on the fringe of your vision. Bit easier to spark something from that than cold-texting "hey, it's Jeremy from that one party two months ago. remember me?"

Besides, at age 30 and having been dating for a long time, I can't tell you how many times social media has given me serendipities like someone asking what to do while visiting the city I live in and I can PM them with "hey, I'll show you around."

Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by sizzle on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @06:43PM (#17872730)
I rather meet prospective dates in person not via tinder /coffee meets bagel type appsm I understand that you are exposed to far more people online, dating pool wise, but in University I was surrounded by 50,000 students and I thrived by physically going to organized clubs and events I was genuinely interested in and chatting it up and exchanging info. Now outside of University, these apps and even online dating get more locked in when you are exposed to less people on the regular.
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by mywittyname on Thursday August 30, 2018 @10:11AM (#17876837)
Some women find it odd if you don't have a FB. This may have changed slightly in recent years though, as trends away from F have started.
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by triviatise on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:42AM (#17869083)
is hacker news not social media?
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by ryandrake on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:53AM (#17869174)
Maybe? I guess it depends on how you define social media. It sure has elements of social media, with its up and down voting, and the karma scorecard. People here don’t tend to know each other though and there is no following, re-tweeting, or even lazy image sharing, so I don’t know, is HN social media?
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by snapspans on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @12:23PM (#17869479)
IMO Hacker News is representative of the slightly earlier than social media concept User Generated Content:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User-generated_content

Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by andrepd on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @01:26PM (#17870025)
The original concept of Web 2.0.
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by thosakwe on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:01AM (#17868721)
That’s fair. I can certainly understand privacy concerns/just general disinterest in social media as a reason to not use it.

The article, though, at least to me, seemed more like it was more about just not using the popular thing.

Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by coldtea on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:05AM (#17868766)
>The article, though, at least to me, seemed more like it was more about just not using the popular thing.

How's that bad? Being able to resist what's popular is a good thing too. We rely too much on following fashions and trends.

Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by WalterSear on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:59AM (#17869230)
Resisting things just because the are popular is as effective as doing them just because they are.
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by moorhosj on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @01:08PM (#17869883)
Effective at what?
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by WalterSear on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @02:23PM (#17870421)
Pursuing one's actual goals rather than letting emotions, arising from identity challenges, guide one's behaviour. Or not, in this case.
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by moorhosj on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @03:25PM (#17870979)
Of course we wouldn't know that without knowing these people's actual goals.
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by WalterSear on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @03:31PM (#17871029)
Your comment makes no sense in regards to the parent discussion.
Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by moorhosj on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @04:37PM (#17871747)
First, someone said this:

==How's that bad? Being able to resist what's popular is a good thing too. We rely too much on following fashions and trends.==

You responded with this:

==Resisting things just because the are popular is as effective as doing them just because they are.==

I am pointing out that you have no idea what the motives are and have simply assumed it is "because they are popular". Maybe the reason they want to resist what is popular is in order to spark their creativity or focus on specific niches. You are trying to make value judgements with almost no information.

Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by ionised on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:12AM (#17868814)
> The article, though, at least to me, seemed more like it was more about just not using the popular thing.

If you're never going to dive deeper than that I can see where your misconceptions come from.

Sometimes the popular thing should be avoided, for very good reasons.

Re:Teens who refuse to use social media by thosakwe on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:19AM (#17868879)
I've definitely addressed the fact that there are good reasons for not using social media in other comments on this very thread.

I'm just saying that not using social media doesn't make you "better" than anybody else.

That is literally all I am saying.

I might not respond to any more comments after this, because I'll end up repeating myself all afternoon.