Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture
by magduf on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @10:13AM
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Coming to a full stop on a bike is downright dangerous. The act of unclipping from your pedal, stopping, and then starting again and having to clip back into your pedal is far more dangerous than just slowing down sufficiently to make sure there's no oncoming traffic. You're more likely to fall over when transitioning between moving and stopped on a bike than any other time, and falling over at an intersection is very dangerous.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture
by nradov on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @01:06PM
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There's nothing dangerous about stopping, I do it all the time and have never fallen. Cyclists who lack the skills to ride with clipless pedals just shouldn't use them. Or at least switch to something like Speedplay which make it easier to clip in and out.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture
by bigato on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:43AM
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I ride clipped all the time in the city and don't have this problem. If you can't safely use clips in the city, it's your choice to use them anyway. Saying that due to clips, "Coming to a full stop on a bike is downright dangerous" may be precise for you and your usage, but it's not a general rule as you made it sound.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture
by KozmoNau7 on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @05:48PM
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I have never had clips, clipless pedals or anything similar. All of my bikes have had flat pedals with a bit of rubber and/or protrusions to keep my feet in place.
I have literally never felt that to be a disadvantage. I'm not racing, I'm commuting.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture
by u801e on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @10:57AM
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I've never used clips on my pedals when commuting because of the fact that there are times I have to come to a stop where I may not have time to unclip.
Using clips while riding in city traffic is like using cruise control while driving in city traffic.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture
by magduf on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @01:01PM
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Riding without clipless pedals means your feet slip all around and you have to pay more attention to your feet while pedaling. Or you have to use toe-clips, which are a PITA because you have to flip the pedal over to get your toe in.
With clipless pedals, you just mash your foot in and go, and your foot is now in the perfect position and you don't have to think about it. But that transition time is more hazardous than simply having your feet on the pedals all the time.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture
by u801e on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @01:40PM
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> Riding without clipless pedals means your feet slip all around and you have to pay more attention to your feet while pedaling.
The pedals on my bicycle have some slight metal protrusions that keep my feet in place while riding and work just fine with conventional shoes. Plus, in dry weather, I don't have a problem with my feet slipping off the pedals. Even in wet weather, they don't really slip that much unless I'm not careful about it.
It was attempted to get a similar law passed in CA: AB 1103.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-aler...
Many cyclists would agree that a rolling stop allows them to get through, when there is no traffic, the intersection much faster and more safely due to the dangers of an intersection. I'm not arguing for blowing through at top-speed, and they must stop when pedestrians are in a cross-walk.
Just because it's the law, doesn't mean it's correct.