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Re:California governor signs overhaul of bail system by Kadin on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @11:32PM (#17865353)
Bail long predates the existence of the police as we now know them.

I have a suspicion though that if you eliminated bail, what you'd end up doing would functionally be making all the bail bondsmen (who currently are limited in what they can do) disappear but suddenly create a need for a bunch more police (who have broader powers).

I don't know if that is really a positive tradeoff. I think the bail bondsmen are likely to have more repercussions if they just murder you, your family, and your dog in your house; the police can more or less do that with impunity in some places, de facto if not de jure.

Re:California governor signs overhaul of bail system by dragonwriter on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @01:06AM (#17865810)
> Bail long predates the existence of the police as we now know them.

OTOH, even most of the history of money bail didn't involve up front payment, it involved recognizances and sureties (pledges from either the accused or third parties, with the latter prohibited from profiting from the arrangement).

> I have a suspicion though that if you eliminated bail, what you'd end up doing would functionally be making all the bail bondsmen (who currently are limited in what they can do) disappear but suddenly create a need for a bunch more police (who have broader powers).

Since Washington, D.C., already did this for quite a while, why are speculating as if this hasn't been done?