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Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by hfdgiutdryg on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @09:15PM (#17864439)
I’ve stopped peaking over my shoulders ever since I’ve gotten a car with a bunch of sensors and cameras.

When I ride in newer cars, I'm always surprised at how poor the outward visibility is. Front pillars have gotten enormous in order to house airbags, and the rear pillars seem to always be absurdly think with tiny, useless corner windows (for crush/rollover strength?). It's no wonder that you're more dependent on technology.

Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by magduf on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @12:57PM (#17869780)
Yes. Front pillars are thicker both for airbags, and also for crush/rollover protection, and rear visibility is bad because the beltline has increased, for crash protection and also for aerodynamics. Basically, cars now are MUCH safer than they were 10-20 years ago with these changes, but like anything, there's a price to pay, and it's visibility.

Luckily, rear cameras and radar sensors give me much better visibility now than I ever had with older cars that had more glass.

Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @03:59AM (#17866533)
Yeah that's a bit shit nowadays; I've almost hit a cyclist at a roundabout the other day because he was behind one of the pillars, staying behind there thanks to the combination of his and my speeds. Always check twice.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @10:01PM (#17864754)
That is totally true! I’ve noticed that even if did turn my head, I wasn’t seeing much compared to the last car I bought twenty years ago. The rear window is also much smaller than I’m comfortable with, but the sensors make up for it.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by lagadu on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @03:51AM (#17866489)
> (for crush/rollover strength?)

That's correct: a car's roof (or rather the pillars that hold it) has to be strong enough to not get crushed in case the car gets flipped. That's why pillars are so thick nowadays.