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Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by the-dude on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @03:45PM (#17862206)
The cyclist vs motorist dynamic in NL is skewed because practically all motorists are cyclists too.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by linguistbreaker on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @03:52PM (#17862270)
I would say the dynamic is skewed in the US because so few motorists are cyclists. Just perspective.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by gowld on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @04:53PM (#17862783)
There is no natural origin to be skewed from. It's relative. both statements are equally correct, and leave out the relative context.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by gpvos on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @07:45AM (#17867450)
The natural origin should be walking (except for motorways, some tunnels, etc., and I guess in most cases also outside city/village limits). But I read that in US suburbs, many streets are not even suitable for that, which boggles my mind.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by Symbiote on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @07:40AM (#17867423)
The natural origin is a pedestrian, which is much, much more common in the Netherlands than most of the USA.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by the-dude on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @03:56PM (#17862309)
You are right, I was searching for words and couldn't find the right one.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by Tijdreiziger on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @06:47PM (#17863613)
I am not sure that's true. I (a Dutchman) know plenty of motorists who won't touch a bicycle.
Re:How the Dutch created a casual biking culture by avocad on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @07:51AM (#17867476)
No, but most of them used to ride a bicycle at some point in their lives, and know of the dangers that cars pose to them. Also Dutchman here.